Selling Final Expense...Whats Your Schedule?

[TDFnCali]

Isn't that all of them? I know they are not all created equal but that is the nature of the recruiting wars. Even my IMO uses me an example of how you can work "2 days a week" and write over $200,000 ap. That is so much BS and it pisses me off that say that. yes, I'm in the field 2 days a week so it seems to be partially true but it's misleading as hell and they are some of the good guys.

The people I pay the most attention to here at the forums are ones that do not recruit, wino, volagent, tins, {ok, I know he recruits but not overtly}, Rick, Readen, Rouse, Newby, {yes, he is kinda of a rcruiter but not really}, etc. There are many more and that's the trouble with making a list, you leave out people.

But, new agents seem to be the most gullible people on earth. I was guilty of that as well. I fell for the smoke and mirrors of NAA and Parker and Asses and RBI and one i am forbidden to name.

Recruiters have their numbers they need to get. They know 90% are going to wash out so if they can recruit a hundred they might get 10 producers. I don't understand that dynamic and I guess that's why I'm not one.

Still, I would think that being stright up would bring recruits to your door. I know I get numerous calls, eamils and pm's from people wanting to sign up with me. People seek out tins and Newby without them doing any recruiting. Todd king doesn't have to recruit a single person. Other send people to him.

So let me get this straight...u dont come here everyday waiting to hear all my 1yr exp golden nuggets so u can use them & be a better agent?

Im shocked & appalled!!

 

[jdeasy]

^^ A perfect example of whay you shouldn't make a list. Posts from agents like you are exactly why I always liked this forum.

When I first found this forum it was because I was researching something a manager was telling me was the gospel truth. It was about med sups and my search led me here and specifically to Frank Statsny. Turns out my suspicion that I was being mislead was right on the money.

I hung around here after that. I met Newby through this forum even though we are only 40 miles apart.

 

[rousemark]

^^ A perfect example of whay you shouldn't make a list. Posts from agents like you are exactly why I always liked this forum.

When I first found this forum it was because I was researching something a manager was telling me was the gospel truth. It was about med sups and my search led me here and specifically to Frank Statsny. Turns out my suspicion that I was being mislead was right on the money.

I hung around here after that. I met Newby through this forum even though we are only 40 miles apart.

Yeah.. But I heard Newby is thinking about moving!

 

[jdeasy]

Yeah.. But I heard Newby is thinking about moving!

Good!! I'll help him pack! You did mean further away?

 

[WinoBlues]

Isn't that all of them? I know they are not all created equal but that is the nature of the recruiting wars. Even my IMO uses me an example of how you can work "2 days a week" and write over $200,000 ap. That is so much BS and it pisses me off that say that. yes, I'm in the field 2 days a week so it seems to be partially true but it's misleading as hell and they are some of the good guys.

The people I pay the most attention to here at the forums are ones that do not recruit, wino, volagent, tins, {ok, I know he recruits but not overtly}, Rick, Readen, Rouse, Newby, {yes, he is kinda of a rcruiter but not really}, etc. There are many more and that's the trouble with making a list, you leave out people.

But, new agents seem to be the most gullible people on earth. I was guilty of that as well. I fell for the smoke and mirrors of NAA and Parker and Asses and RBI and one i am forbidden to name.

Recruiters have their numbers they need to get. They know 90% are going to wash out so if they can recruit a hundred they might get 10 producers. I don't understand that dynamic and I guess that's why I'm not one.

Still, I would think that being stright up would bring recruits to your door. I know I get numerous calls, eamils and pm's from people wanting to sign up with me. People seek out tins and Newby without them doing any recruiting. Todd king doesn't have to recruit a single person. Other send people to him.

No truer words. On this forum if you are a good upline people refer you. If you suck....... Well......

Like you I get emails and PMs asking for help. I am glad to impart what I can. I also get a number wanting contracts, with very few exceptions I tell them no. I always send them to these guys and a couple others. I give these guys props. I tried the whole "Adult Daycare" for a few years. No thanks!

 

[gordon112]

No truer words. On this forum if you are a good upline people refer you. If you suck....... Well......

Like you I get emails and PMs asking for help. I am glad to impart what I can. I also get a number wanting contracts, with very few exceptions I tell them no. I always send them to these guys and a couple others. I give these guys props. I tried the whole "Adult Daycare" for a few years. No thanks!

That is a good adjective for it, Adult Daycare..!..love it

 

[rousemark]

Final expense sales is not rocket surgery, but it does require some help to get good at it. I'd be happy to help you succeed, as an independent, in this business. Being "alone" is not a great place to start.

Rocket Surgery? Is that what they do in Iran? Have heard of Rocket Science and Brain Surgery but have never seen surgery being performed on a rocket....

 

[FE4U]

I feel bad for anybody new to the forum looking for sound advice. When I was new and lurking here I learned which FE companies to stay away from and which ones I should consider just by Jdeasy and others calling out the non producing recruiters spewing nonsense just to get someone to contract with them.

Now with the threat of being banned people make think twice about calling someone out on a non truth and that is a shame. I think that diminishes what forums like this are designed for.( to give someone advice from both sides of the aisle and let them come to their own conclusions)

 

[Pete Cormie]

Rocket Surgery? Is that what they do in Iran? Have heard of Rocket Science and Brain Surgery but have never seen surgery being performed on a rocket....

You obviously need to take a Brain Science class. That's the prerequisite for Rocket Surgery.

 

[Sam]

Now with the threat of being banned people make think twice about calling someone out on a non truth and that is a shame. I think that diminishes what forums like this are designed for.( to give someone advice from both sides of the aisle and let them come to their own conclusions)

I posted about this subject in the cleaning up thread. People will be banned for personal attacks. We do not censor criticism of companies, or people pointing out things that are wrong, just make sure to do it in a way that isn't a personal attack.