Went to the SL meeting

Greg thats Bull. You know how many Fe clients only take 1 high bp and 1 depression drug? Also zero . They take 2-3 of each min. What about all the heart issues with warfin,Isosorbide? What about insulin and a irregular heartbeat? Your throwing Combo's that hardly ever happen. As i said the SL agents are quoting super preferred and when it comes back preferred or Gi the client never notices as the premium stayed the same but the face dropped in 1/2. Most of these FE people never even open their policy's . Its funny your the only SL agent on this board so there's no former agents to dispute your bs. All every agent knows for a fact is every SL policy we run into in the field is 20% more than most fe carriers and we replace them . Those are the facts .
 
Greg thats Bull. You know how many Fe clients only take 1 high bp and 1 depression drug? Also zero . They take 2-3 of each min. What about all the heart issues with warfin,Isosorbide? What about insulin and a irregular heartbeat? Your throwing Combo's that hardly ever happen. As i said the SL agents are quoting super preferred and when it comes back preferred or Gi the client never notices as the premium stayed the same but the face dropped in 1/2. Most of these FE people never even open their policy's . Its funny your the only SL agent on this board so there's no former agents to dispute your bs. All every agent knows for a fact is every SL policy we run into in the field is 20% more than most fe carriers and we replace them . Those are the facts .
 
I have one contract with @Todd King, and he's a good guy as far as I'm concerned, so I won't be drawn into your feud! LOL!

I don't really have an IMO per say. I have contracts through several IMO's, and I also have some direct contracts (in fact, my 3 main carriers are all direct). I actually have two versions of FEX, and one of CSG. They're all IMO specific. None of them are out of date, but they only show carriers represented by the respective IMO. The full versions of both FEX and CSG show all the major FE carriers, including SL.

Ironically, a lot of what I write is for regional carriers who don't show up on any of the quoters! I mostly use the quoters for comparison purposes. As far as cheaper rates, I'm pretty aware of the main "pricebuster" carriers. I'm often able to beat even those rates, but price is only one consideration in what I recommend.

But, let's consider the example case given.
60 yr old male non smoker:
SL Super Preferred 10k w/20k adb rider: $38.68/mo.
I pulled up the following on FEX quotes:
Oxford $41.48; Lifeshield $38.13; LBL Flex4Life (SIWL) $36.47; Christian Fidelity $35.84; Trinity First WL (SIWL) $35.25;
Pekin $33.59.
Not on FEX, but I can offer United Life at $35.47.

None of the above include any riders, so accounting for a couple dollars for your 20k of adb puts all of the above in competitive range, with probably 4 of them right there with you, and one beating you.

But, like I said, price isn't everything. For example, the LBL Flex plan is a super low rate, but the client has to be squeaky clean to get it. Not many of those over age 50, so I almost never write it! That's why I was curious about your percentages on Super Preferred. (But if I've got somebody with just a couple normal medical conditions like HBP or non-insulin diabetes, I can still get them a similar rate.)

I do think it's great that your agents have a tool that takes the guesswork out if it.
Greg thats Bull. You know how many Fe clients only take 1 high bp and 1 depression drug? Also zero . They take 2-3 of each min. What about all the heart issues with warfin,Isosorbide? What about insulin and a irregular heartbeat? Your throwing Combo's that hardly ever happen. As i said the SL agents are quoting super preferred and when it comes back preferred or Gi the client never notices as the premium stayed the same but the face dropped in 1/2. Most of these FE people never even open their policy's . Its funny your the only SL agent on this board so there's no former agents to dispute your bs. All every agent knows for a fact is every SL policy we run into in the field is 20% more than most fe carriers and we replace them . Those are the facts .


You said I was lying about a week ago and I said let's each put up a grand to see. Did anyone ever lend you the grand? Let me know....lol.
 
Greg thats Bull. You know how many Fe clients only take 1 high bp and 1 depression drug? Also zero . They take 2-3 of each min. What about all the heart issues with warfin,Isosorbide? What about insulin and a irregular heartbeat? Your throwing Combo's that hardly ever happen. As i said the SL agents are quoting super preferred and when it comes back preferred or Gi the client never notices as the premium stayed the same but the face dropped in 1/2. Most of these FE people never even open their policy's . Its funny your the only SL agent on this board so there's no former agents to dispute your bs. All every agent knows for a fact is every SL policy we run into in the field is 20% more than most fe carriers and we replace them . Those are the facts .
I only take one blood pressure med (lisinopril) and 1 depression med (Lexapro)..
 
As far as i know your not a fe type client ? Maybe you live in a single wide with 10 dogs and 3 cats. lol. But seriously i rarely run into a customer that only takes 1 of each of those drugs. Proof will be in the pudding when i run into a SL policy and i can't replace it . I highly doubt that ever happens.
 
Pekin has some killer good rates. Wonder if underwriting might be a little tighter than SL's super -preferred? 60 yr. old female, NT, Insulin dependent diabetic (started taking insulin at age 7), one HBP, and one depression could get SL's super-preferred. Could this person also get Pekin's great rate? If so does Pekin pay full commission on it?

Don't forget, Pekin could be a $40 per month cheaper premium than SL and Sr Life bundled with Legacy Assurance would crush Pekin on the savings.

I can't recall anyone mentioning Pekin up here before.
According to this thread, you may be right about tighter underwriting:
https://insurance-forums.com/community/threads/pekin-life.92093/
 
Sr Life agents use an ipad with an app called SLICE that's been downloaded to their ipad. When we visit with Ms. Jones we go over the health questions on SLICE, type in all prescribed meds, and then SLICE will tell us the best plan Ms. Jones qualifies for. This is so agents don't look up the wrong plan.

Then SLICE also has the sales presentation so all agents (even brand new agents) can give the same world class sales presentation each week. There is also a 4 min video sharing testimonials for Legacy Assurance. Then rates are displayed by SLICE (so agents don't quote incorrect rates).

If Ms. Jones wants to go forward with a plan then we type in the app on the ipad, everyone signs their name with their finger tip or stylus, the agent clicks submit and everything goes to the home office. If the home office receives the pic of the check along with the submitted app by 3 pm est the agent is paid that night!

The home office will also do a script check to make sure the agent (or Ms. Jones) didn't leave out any of the prescribed meds. There is no MIB.

Then Sr Life also does random phone interviews with Ms. Jones when they receive the app. They double check spellings, premium amount, face amount, draft date, etc. and to welcome Ms. Jones to the company as a policy bolder. They also double check the yes or no health questions.

This method prevents what DonP say agents do. Hope this explanation enlightens you.

Agents (full-time and part-time) should call me if they are looking for a very simple process where they don't have to keep up with multiple carriers. The math was laid out several posts earlier that even if Todd has a premium $40 per month cheaper than Sr Life (doesn't exist by the way) that the Sr Life policy bundled with Legacy Assurance will CRUSH any savings that Todd thought he could provide.

A smart agent could cross sell Legacy Assurance bundled with a small policy from Sr Life and not even have to worry about lead expenses for awhile. Sell five $20 policies a day!

Call me for a confidential phone conversation.
 
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