What is the Average Persistency Rate for FE by Phone?

[theinsuranceman]

Insuranceman, the guy that is doing 35-45K monthly how long has he been in the business?

Not sure. He started writing for LH about 4 years ago. Probably came from another FE Co. I would think.
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You are a lying blowhard that started making personal insults towards me because I called your bluff.

You have tried to pull a scam and nobody is taking your bait. You don't do $2500 ap per week. You don't have 80% persistancy and you don't have anyone working under you that does either. You can't give tangible numbers for anything you claim. I would be surprised if you have ever even done $3000 ap in one week.

Why hasn't even one person came on the board and said they tried your system and made money at it? Not even one. Only you with made up numbers.

And, I don't move around from company to company. I add companies to my arsenal in order to offer the most competitive and comprehensive plans available. I could even offer LH if I had a need to rob somebody. I can guarantee that you would never repalce one of my policies. Much better agents than have tried. You went to phone sales because you couldn't cut it face to face and now you are trying to put lipstick on the pig you bought in hopes that somebody else will buy it.

LOL! You sound like a screaching female, or maybe you are just a little emotionally unstable? LOL. No scam, no BS, just the facts. In my 10+ years of experience I've found that the nay sayers and complainers are usually the losers.
I don't even try to recruit on this board. It's difficult to give someone one on one training for 2-3 days using phone sales when they live in another state. All I've been trying to do is answer questions that were posed to me and explain how the numbers work out for an agent's success.

You seem a little too sensitive to be in the FE business. You must be having a rough week.

God Bless!
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Wow, you mean to tell me the more leads I have the more sells I can make? Why didn't someone tell me about this? That makes perfect sense… Thank you!

This message board has really eroded since I first stumbled upon it.

The guy that Jdeasy is referring to that has done over $300,000 in FE production this year. (Including 3 full weeks of vacation and the RNA convention to boot.) Spends about $400 week in leads. And has a 92 percent persistency. He is the greatest FE agent in the WORLD!!! Don't get excited because these results will not happen for anyone reading this. He is a freak in our industry and not like the rest of us.

Awesome! Approx. 6K production per week with about 20 leads. He must be selling to the next door neighbors of the leads and getting plenty of referrals. I would love to hear how this "freak" does it. I don't doubt your honesty at all. But I'm sure the other FE guys and gals would like to know more about this. Thanks in advance.

 

[VaDwayne]

Man, This Forum Is Starting To Really Suck!!!!!!

 

[jdeasy]

Not sure. He started writing for LH about 4 years ago. Probably came from another FE Co. I would think.
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LOL! You sound like a screaching female, or maybe you are just a little emotionally unstable? LOL. No scam, no BS, just the facts. In my 10+ years of experience I've found that the nay sayers and complainers are usually the losers.
I don't even try to recruit on this board. It's difficult to give someone one on one training for 2-3 days using phone sales when they live in another state. All I've been trying to do is answer questions that were posed to me and explain how the numbers work out for an agent's success.

You seem a little too sensitive to be in the FE business. You must be having a rough week.

God Bless!
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Awesome! Approx. 6K production per week with about 20 leads. He must be selling to the next door neighbors of the leads and getting plenty of referrals. I would love to hear how this "freak" does it. I don't doubt your honesty at all. But I'm sure the other FE guys and gals would like to know more about this. Thanks in advance.

You haven't presented any fact, just you usual suspect "average" numbers. And, thanks for asking, but, I'm having a very good week. I have a pretty good week every week and occasionally I'll have a great week. You don't have a clue when you question anything about me and my business. Many on here know me, so, you just look like a bigger fool when you do question me.

 

[theinsuranceman]

You haven't presented any fact, just you usual suspect "average" numbers. And, thanks for asking, but, I'm having a very good week. I have a pretty good week every week and occasionally I'll have a great week. You don't have a clue when you question anything about me and my business. Many on here know me, so, you just look like a bigger fool when you do question me.

I believe $6000 per week with a lead cost of only $400 sounds a lot more far fetched than the figures I have laid out in the earlier posts on this thread. Even with that being said I still believe $6k could be possible with only $400 lead costs if Hoosier says it's true. I just want to know how those results are achieved so I can improve my income. You can always learn something new in this business. You see...I'm not one of those nay sayers, I'm open minded to new ways of selling FE. LOL.

 

[G.Gordon]

There are some blow hards on here that need to get laid.

 

[rbrewer]

You now start with the personal insults once I asked you to prove your bullshit. There's not an FMO, IMO or GA out there that I've ever worked for that would ever that I'm anything except extremely coachable and definately not too stubborn to learn. The others on this forum that know me would tell you that are barking up up the wrong tree.

Of course you're not trying to recruit me now because I know you are full of it. You are trying to recruit others though.

And the number 1 guy I refer is not my guy, he is the the top FE salesman in the country. He already has over $300,000 ap with his own pen for this year and it's all face to face. There is not another single FE producer in the country that's done $300,000 by themselves since Jan. 1. Not with any company nor any other FMO.

What kind of system is he using? Are you using the same? What is the reason you are on the call with him? is he doing training?

 

[Newby]

insuranceman,

I referred one to you yesterday. I took a call from a lady in Florida that was looking for a good company to sell FE by phone. She seemed like she had good sense, previous phone success with annuities and a great voice and presence on the phone.

Maybe she can be your success case and let us know how she does.

 

[theinsuranceman]

insuranceman,

I referred one to you yesterday. I took a call from a lady in Florida that was looking for a good company to sell FE by phone. She seemed like she had good sense, previous phone success with annuities and a great voice and presence on the phone.

Maybe she can be your success case and let us know how she does.

Thanks Scott. I've not heard from her. I have had calls from agents in Ga. and Md.

Why don't you get involved with phone sales for FE? She would have been part of your team.

Have her call me 252-292-3350 if she has a GREAT work ethic and is coachable....Greg

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Why don't you get involved with phone sales for FE? She would have been part of your team.

Why would Scott take a pay cut? Plus the aggravation of deal with a female agent from Florida? From my previous dealings with female agents from FL you better hope she never calls... and ask Scott not to do you anymore favors.

After skimming over some of the previous post let me vouch for JDeasy. The guy works appointments two days a week. (Tue & Thur) And with only the companies he has under me (all that I can personally verify) he writes between 16 to 20K every month. (That's not a bad income for 8 or 9 days a month?) The neat thing about JDeasy is that he is in complete control over his income. If he wanted to run appointments 3 days a week that monthly income number would be 19 to 23K or higher.

He works the business, the business does not work him. Also he has the highest closing % of any agent from Equita. (Side Note) Equita does over a million a month in FE.

Producers like JD are few and far between that visit this board.

 

[theinsuranceman]

Why would Scott take a pay cut? Plus the aggravation of deal with a female agent from Florida? From my previous dealings with female agents from FL you better hope she never calls... and ask Scott not to do you anymore favors.

After skimming over some of the previous post let me vouch for JDeasy. The guy works appointments two days a week. (Tue & Thur) And with only the companies he has under me (all that I can personally verify) he writes between 16 to 20K every month. (That's not a bad income for 8 or 9 days a month?) The neat thing about JDeasy is that he is in complete control over his income. If he wanted to run appointments 3 days a week that monthly income number would be 19 to 23K or higher.

He works the business, the business does not work him. Also he has the highest closing % of any agent from Equita. (Side Note) Equita does over a million a month in FE.

Producers like JD are few and far between that visit this board.

My hat is off to JD. Good job! I've NEVER discounted his claims, but he sure likes to discount my claims. By the way, when are you going to share with us how the "freak" you mentioned a few posts above writes 6K per week with a lead cost of only $400? Is his upline giving him free leads of some sort because they know he is already a good producer and is a good example for new agents to aspire to? Or maybe he's getting extra leads from other sources you don't know about?

PS: If Jd writes 4k-5k per week in only 2 days of appointments he must burn through a lot of leads on the phone on Mon. and Wed. setting appointments for Tues. and Thurs. and only see people who have agreed on the phone to his premium quoted and will write the check when he comes by. Nothing wrong with that. Just curious, what is Jd's lead costs?

Maybe Jd could SHARE his words of wisdow with everyone on this forum....how to write 4k-5k per week with just 2 days of appointments.

Scott would not be taking a pay cut. He would be getting a pay increase.