What is the Average Persistency Rate for FE by Phone?

I don't know how he does it. All I know is he WORKS. He uses TV leads that are $29 each. He probably spends $1500-$2000 per week for leads, but with that production who cares?
 
There's plenty of people in our co. who blow my doors off every week in production. What kind of numbers does your #1 guy put up? (the guy on your Fri. conference call). Our top guy does $35K-$45K every month like clock work. He's a real animal with FE though.

In order to be successful on the phone it takes some training and practice. Ask Frank about the phone on his Med Supp's.You have to "give good phone" as he says.

No I'm not trying to recruit you. I can see you are too stubborn and not coachable. Just wouldn't work out for you or me.


You now start with the personal insults once I asked you to prove your bullshit. There's not an FMO, IMO or GA out there that I've ever worked for that would ever that I'm anything except extremely coachable and definately not too stubborn to learn. The others on this forum that know me would tell you that are barking up up the wrong tree.

Of course you're not trying to recruit me now because I know you are full of it. You are trying to recruit others though.

And the number 1 guy I refer is not my guy, he is the the top FE salesman in the country. He already has over $300,000 ap with his own pen for this year and it's all face to face. There is not another single FE producer in the country that's done $300,000 by themselves since Jan. 1. Not with any company nor any other FMO.
 
You now start with the personal insults once I asked you to prove your bullshit. There's not an FMO, IMO or GA out there that I've ever worked for that would ever that I'm anything except extremely coachable and definately not too stubborn to learn. The others on this forum that know me would tell you that are barking up up the wrong tree.

Of course you're not trying to recruit me now because I know you are full of it. You are trying to recruit others though.

And the number 1 guy I refer is not my guy, he is the the top FE salesman in the country. He already has over $300,000 ap with his own pen for this year and it's all face to face. There is not another single FE producer in the country that's done $300,000 by themselves since Jan. 1. Not with any company nor any other FMO.


Do the math...35k-45k per month x 8 months= 280k-360k. Pretty close eh? How can you say "top in the country". You don't know all the big hitters with all the other FE companies. You like to talk facts with NO credibility. You are starting to bore me.

Which tree do you live in?
 
Do the math...35k-45k per month x 8 months= 280k-360k. Pretty close eh? How can you say "top in the country". You don't know all the big hitters with all the other FE companies. You like to talk facts with NO credibility. You are starting to bore me.

Which tree do you live in?


Obviously not in your LH tree. I do know who all the top guns are. There is not another agent in the country that has done $300,000 in FE ap year to date without others helping to get there.

The top FE producer last year wrote $300,000 all year. I do know the market. I do know the competition and I do know the companies. I've written for most of them at one time or another. Including your high priced baby, LH.
 
Obviously not in your LH tree. I do know who all the top guns are. There is not another agent in the country that has done $300,000 in FE ap year to date without others helping to get there.

The top FE producer last year wrote $300,000 all year. I do know the market. I do know the competition and I do know the companies. I've written for most of them at one time or another. Including your high priced baby, LH.


Let's see...exactly 300,000 for the year last year? Amazing. You sound like a little man trying to talk like a big man. Why do you hop from co. to co.? Usually agents hop around because they fail with one co. then hop to the next in hopes things will be better for them. And you seem to have hopped around to most of the co.'s as you claim. LOL. No harm intended but I do find you to be rather entertaining and amusing.LOL

Oh yeah...LH may be priced higher than the ave., but they will be around staying strong financially as some of the other co.'s leave the FE arena. You do know most people buy on "emotion" and not "price" don't you? Of the few who buy on "price"....well they will be a larger % of your charge backs/lapses. Wait till they get an AARP piece in the mail promoting their 5 year term. They'll drop you like a lead weight and go with AARP. Or maybe they will charge back because they are just too poor (unfortunately) for the policy you wrote them.
 
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Let's see...exactly 300,000 for the year last year? Amazing. You sound like a little man trying to talk like a big man. Why do you hop from co. to co.? Usually agents hop around because they fail with one co. then hop to the next in hopes things will be better for them. And you seem to have hopped around to most of the co.'s as you claim. LOL. No harm intended but I do find you to be rather entertaining and amusing.LOL

Oh yeah...LH may be priced higher than the ave., but they will be around staying strong financially as some of the other co.'s leave the FE arena. You do know most people buy on "emotion" and not "price" don't you? Of the few who buy on "price"....well they will be a larger % of your charge backs/lapses. Wait till they get an AARP piece in the mail promoting their 5 year term. They'll drop you like a lead weight and go with AARP. Or maybe they will charge back because they are just too poor (unfortunately) for the policy you wrote them.


You are a lying blowhard that started making personal insults towards me because I called your bluff.

You have tried to pull a scam and nobody is taking your bait. You don't do $2500 ap per week. You don't have 80% persistancy and you don't have anyone working under you that does either. You can't give tangible numbers for anything you claim. I would be surprised if you have ever even done $3000 ap in one week.

Why hasn't even one person came on the board and said they tried your system and made money at it? Not even one. Only you with made up numbers.

And, I don't move around from company to company. I add companies to my arsenal in order to offer the most competitive and comprehensive plans available. I could even offer LH if I had a need to rob somebody. I can guarantee that you would never repalce one of my policies. Much better agents than have tried. You went to phone sales because you couldn't cut it face to face and now you are trying to put lipstick on the pig you bought in hopes that somebody else will buy it.
 
I don't know how he does it. All I know is he WORKS. He uses TV leads that are $29 each. He probably spends $1500-$2000 per week for leads, but with that production who cares?

2K per week is aprx 8K per month. If he is grossing 35K per month, that is still worth it considering the ROI.

That being said, I already do 6 days a week in many cases; but my hours are not nearly so long. I may have some agents that might be interested, but I think I will stick with my estate planning cases.

Thank you for the offer, and bravo on the production.
 
2K per week is aprx 8K per month. If he is grossing 35K per month, that is still worth it considering the ROI.

Thank you

Wow, you mean to tell me the more leads I have the more sells I can make? Why didn't someone tell me about this? That makes perfect sense… Thank you!

This message board has really eroded since I first stumbled upon it.

The guy that Jdeasy is referring to that has done over $300,000 in FE production this year. (Including 3 full weeks of vacation and the RNA convention to boot.) Spends about $400 week in leads. And has a 92 percent persistency. He is the greatest FE agent in the WORLD!!! Don't get excited because these results will not happen for anyone reading this. He is a freak in our industry and not like the rest of us.
 
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