30 Days and Counting.....

[Yagents]

HealthGuy wants this thread bumped up. Vote the poll..

InTrade stock on the individual mandate has the money on repealing it at 64% chance. Intrade - The US Supreme Court to rule individual mandate unconstitutional before midnight ET 31 Dec 2012

The sadder number was the money is on Obama at 53% chance of re-election, only 42% for Romney.

 

[AllenChicago]

Wow.. only 3 other respondents believe that the Supreme Court will leave the law as is.

Of course I'm not hoping for this, but it is the path of least resistance and least disruption to society. More than 50% of health insurance companies will leave the health business even if ObamaCare is upheld, but it would cause the least backlash, IMO.

The longer the Supreme Court waits the render their decision this month, the more likely they've voted to overturn it? My reasoning is that Good News for Obama and parents with sick children would be announced quickly. If it's completely thrown out, the Supreme Court would announce it and then quickly head home (or out of the USA) for the Summer. Is this reasonable logic? -ac

 

[Ann H]

So, Bill, how did your neighborhood poll compare to the insurance agents' opinions?

 

[bill3173]

I wanna play basketball with Obama.... That will be fun and physical game

Anyone plays the President one on one better lose outright, or throw the game.

 

[stuy119]

Wow.. only 3 other respondents believe that the Supreme Court will leave the law as is.

Of course I'm not hoping for this, but it is the path of least resistance and least disruption to society. More than 50% of health insurance companies will leave the health business even if ObamaCare is upheld, but it would cause the least backlash, IMO.

The longer the Supreme Court waits the render their decision this month, the more likely they've voted to overturn it? My reasoning is that Good News for Obama and parents with sick children would be announced quickly. If it's completely thrown out, the Supreme Court would announce it and then quickly head home (or out of the USA) for the Summer. Is this reasonable logic? -ac

No, not that I know of. From what I understand, they set a target date, write the opinion, and have it printed up for disbursement. When it's ready, it's released. The decision has no bearing upon when it's released.

 

[xrac]

Supreme Irony: Would a 'single payer' health care plan be less vulnerable to the court than the Affordable Health Care Act? - Yahoo! News

 

[ABC]

Supreme Irony: Would a 'single payer' health care plan be less vulnerable to the court than the Affordable Health Care Act? - Yahoo! News

A one payer system is not affordable without tax increases and reimbursement rate reduction to the docs.

It blows me a way how educated people do not see that.

2007 45% of health care was paid by the US gov. Look at how many states are going broke with medicaid. Medicare is on it's way to financial collapse.

To go to a one payer system you will see health care R&D stop in this country. It really already has. The investors are already saying the risk is not worth the return with Obama.

To really fix health care in this country you have to fix the people and docs. Attack utilization and life style and then cut medicare by a huge margin. The carriers and networks use medicare as the starting point fort PPO contracts.

 

[somarco]

Romney may not be the best choice, but anything is better than what we have now.

I noticed xrac's link also links internally to an article stating Romney supported the individual mandate as part of RomneyCare.

True, but that is only part of the story.

Romney individual mandate was designed to require catastrophic insurance

Romney's big idea was to free insurers from the state's costly 1996 insurance mandates, allowing individuals to buy inexpensive insurance that would meet their most urgent needs. But the health law he signed in 2006 did not specify the types of plans that insurers were required to offer. "The specific definition of [minimum creditable coverage under the mandate] was left to the board of the Health Connector to decide," recounts Josh Archambault.

Romney's goal, with the individual mandate, was to require people to buy catastrophic insurance that would cover emergency care. Romney's version of the mandate was designed to compensate for the effects of the federal EMTALA law, that requires hospitals to provide emergency care to everyone, regardless of their ability to pay. "Therefore," writes Archambault, "the original 2005 legislation filed by Governor Romney required that Massachusetts residents carry, at a minimum, catastrophic medical coverage, or in lieu of such coverage, a $10,000 bond…an approach that tracked the Commonwealth's requirement for automobile insurance coverage."

However, the bill that emerged out of the Democratic legislature contained a different mandate. The Democratic version did not restrict the mandate to catastrophic insurance, and it replaced the bond provision with a direct fine. Furthermore, according to Archambault, when Deval Patrick assumed office, he populated the Health Connector board with progressives who favored mandating costly comprehensive insurance, instead of cheaper catastrophic coverage.

How Deval Patrick Gutted Romneycare's Market-Oriented Health Reforms - Forbes

 

[xrac]

A one payer system is not affordable without tax increases and reimbursement rate reduction to the docs.

It blows me a way how educated people do not see that.

2007 45% of health care was paid by the US gov. Look at how many states are going broke with medicaid. Medicare is on it's way to financial collapse.

To go to a one payer system you will see health care R&D stop in this country. It really already has. The investors are already saying the risk is not worth the return with Obama.

To really fix health care in this country you have to fix the people and docs. Attack utilization and life style and then cut medicare by a huge margin. The carriers and networks use medicare as the starting point fort PPO contracts.

There is an article in the newspaper today that Illinois is cutting 26,000 people off of Medicaid trying to save the system in Illinois.

 

[gussle285]

Romney may not be the best choice, but anything is better than what we have now.

I noticed xrac's link also links internally to an article stating Romney supported the individual mandate as part of RomneyCare.

True, but that is only part of the story.


How Deval Patrick Gutted Romneycare's Market-Oriented Health Reforms - Forbes

I totally agree that Romney isn't the best choice, but anyone including Mickey Mouse is better than Obummer. I think the Indpendents that voted for Obummer in 2008 will not vote for him again, which should be the end of Obummer and his cronies.