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They're happy to do it and to have the work. But they also know the risks.
33 Gun Purchases - No Red Flags
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Gotta love you guy's, anything that doesn't fit your agenda is fake. Any scientist that says something different is a fraud.
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Nope. Anything that is not fact based is wrong. Your suggestion was to match me "story for story" about whether my assertion is true. I know there is more gun violence, murders and suicides in states with loose guns. The only stories you could come up with are fake and there are plenty of them that get churned out to manipulate right wing people like yourself.
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No I agree, Illinois probably has the loosest in the country. They aren't even number 1.
If it doesn't fit your agenda its false. If I said the sky is blue you would call me a liar. Or come up with some reason I was wrong.
If it doesn't fit your agenda its false. If I said the sky is blue you would call me a liar. Or come up with some reason I was wrong.
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Am I saying states with loose gun laws have higher rates of gun violence, murder and suicide. That is a fact. There is no story you can find to change it because it is a fact. Do you understand what a fact is?
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I said I agreed with you, but there are reasons beyond the gun laws for suicides. That is a fact but you do not give a chit about it because it does not fit the agenda.
If someone wants to die they will find a way, and yes having a gun is probably one of the quickest.
You take one little piece of an equation and scream about your facts. If you worried more about WHY they ended it all something productive might come out of it.
If someone wants to die they will find a way, and yes having a gun is probably one of the quickest.
You take one little piece of an equation and scream about your facts. If you worried more about WHY they ended it all something productive might come out of it.
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So what your saying is if a house is on fire the fire company should worry about why the house is on fire before putting the fire out.
No. All your doing is flooding the argument to dilute the most important factor, the actual act, in this case suicides, and gun violence and murders.
There is no way to prevent all suicides, murders and gun violence but reasonable gun laws will significantly lessen all three.
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You're a riot, how does that comparison make any sense.
When you have a fire you need to act to stop or lessen the damage. Put that same effort to someone suicidal and lessen the damage.
We have tons of gun laws, just not enough for you. Murder is illegal, a felon having a gun is illegal. Doesn't seem to bother them.
You accuse me of diluting the problem. Bullchit, the problem is the mental state of the suicidal person, but all that matters is your political agenda, you dont give a rats ass about the person.
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Often times we don't know someone is suicidal. Again, you're just arguing and not thinking.
You are correct there are laws against felons having guns and murder, how are those working out? Not well because there are not any laws to regulate what happens to the guns after they are purchased. Which brings us full circle back to the original problem of this thread. How can someone buy a gun(s) and there not be a way to track how many guns they are purchasing and what they are doing with them.
It's just a circular argument with you right wingers, though, at least for the most part. You guys are stuck on stupid and the current state of the government not being able to pass any meaningful laws as a great example. A third of you guys are nuts, a third are stupid and the rest are looking at you guys and scratching their head. Totally disfuctional because you're only good at complaining and anger.
As with all the other shootings, it's safe to say I don't think the republicans are going to take any meaningful action on public safety in regards to guns and these shootings will continue to get worse and more frequent
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What magical law are you going to pass that tells you what people are doing with a a gun they purchased.
What law are you going to put in that would have stopped that latest shooting. You can put a hold on someone that is purchasing multiple guns in a year, wouldn't have changed a thing. He had a bunch but only used 2 or 3 of the guns he had.
What exact law would you like that would have stopped him. Give me answers not rhetoric.
Keep going with insults about someone with different ideals, it has been working so well for your side.
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