BACON IS FOR CLOSERS...

[KOC Agent]

"When talking about dieting with patients, he asks what they enjoy eating.

'Then we come up with a diet based on the kinds of food that they like. The other thing that I think is incredibly important: it's a marathon, not a sprint, and so we don't want to pick the best diet for three months. We want to pick a lifestyle approach,' he said.

He said that's why the Keto diet was named one of the worst diets as it's hard to follow."

1) Ok, so I like to eat donuts and Pizza - let's use that to come up with a plan that will take the pounds off, keep them off, and prevent type 2 diabetes lol

2) Keto is one of the worst not because it doesn't work, but because it is "hard to follow."

Guess what else is hard: Quitting smoking, quitting heroin, quitting cocaine, quitting meth, quitting crack, quitting biting one's nails, 'quitting' restless leg disorder.

I am firmly of the belief that the reason folks are getting fat and sick at an historically unprecedented rate is because human beings are not meant to eat large quantities of of sugar and processed carbs any more than we are meant to shoot up heroin.

As with anything, the choice to try a potentially addictive substance is a choice, but the addiction has real physiological components that once in place are not easily reversed. In the case of carbs and sugar, though, we don't make a "choice" so much as we were taught that "they are good for you."

The reason keto may be hard for some (and there are plenty of folks who go keto and never, ever fall off, by the way) is because of carbohydrate addiction. I read doctors who say that keto is bad because it is hard as stupid nannykrats and repulinuts: "Oh, poor baby, you can still eat the donuts - just eat fewer and then move a little more and you'll be all better."

What doesn't work is the "eat less move more" mantra. That is the "lifestyle" that most find they are unable to stick to. I have a friend who works out everyday at a Planet fitness or something. He told me how nice it was to have everything back to normal yesterday. It was normal because all the folks who signed up and showed up everyday last week have, for the most part, given it up already and now the normal number of folks were there.

I love pizza and donuts. No way anyone is ever going to convince me that I can go back to have a donut(s) daily with my breakfast and pizza everyday for lunch and not be right back on the path to type 2 diabetes, heart disease, cancer, etc.

Keto is like door knocking: It may be hard to get started, but once you are in the habit and no longer addicted to carbs or lead cards you find it is very good for you and you'd never want to go back to stuffing your face with pie and spending your profits on expensive leads.

But there will be no end to folks telling you that door knocking is wrong, its old fashioned, its better to hide behind a keyboard or pay someone else to do your lead gen. Nannykrats and Repulinuts, every single one of them.

Give me Liberty or give me death, and give me keto or I would be dead.

It sounds like the cold door knocking is working out well for you. What type of neighborhoods are you in?

 

[DayTimer]

It sounds like the cold door knocking is working out well for you. What type of neighborhoods are you in?

I'm going to post an answer in the cold doors thread.

 

[LostDollar]

A note for you all, re keto:

I was just looking at Papa Murphy's (take and bake pizza) and I see they now have a CRUSTLESS PIZZAS--KETO FRIENDLY submenu.

 

[vic120]

A note for you all, re keto:

I was just looking at Papa Murphy's (take and bake pizza) and I see they now have a CRUSTLESS PIZZAS--KETO FRIENDLY submenu.

Wow Average at 25 grams of carbs, Probably for one slice, Don't see that as a good option in the future

Right now I am in the first stage on this diet so def no

but even in if I get to maintenance stage I do see this as a good option

Besides you can make so much better options yourself

 

[DayTimer]

 

[Northeast Agent]

As VA Tests Keto Diet for Diabetic Patients, Skeptics Raise Red Flags

https://www.usnews.com/news/healthi...or-diabetic-patients-skeptics-raise-red-flags

The VA runs the country's largest integrated health care system and is considered a leader in diabetes care. Roughly 25% of its patients have the disease, which is twice the national average. Inside the VA, diabetes is the leading cause of blindness, renal disease and amputations.

The VA's work with Virta has raised alarm bells, including on Capitol Hill.

In October, Rep. Josh Gottheimer, D-N.J., sent a letter to Wilkie saying that the "partnership between the VA and Virta Health Corporation provides tacit approval of the ketogenic diet as a means to reverse the impacts of type 2 diabetes." His letter also added, "Promoting a ketogenic diet for patients with diabetes may put them at increased health risk."

Neither Gottheimer nor his staff returned repeated requests for comment about what prompted his letter.

 

[DayTimer]

"Promoting a ketogenic diet for patients with diabetes may put them at increased health risk."

I'm starting to question your motives here ...

 

[Northeast Agent]

DayTimer said:

I'm starting to question your motives here ...

No motives. But now the VA and politics are involved.

 

[DayTimer]

DayTimer said:

I'm starting to question your motives here ...

No motives. But now the VA and politics are involved.

Politics have been involved since we were kids and it has been a giant failure. The heart attack epidemic of the 1920's and forward was caused by the increase in tobacco smoking, imo.

 

[vic120]

Politics have been involved since we were kids and it has been a giant failure. The heart attack epidemic of the 1920's and forward was caused by the increase in tobacco smoking, imo.

This is so true in the way politics dictate science not just with food but many other subjects as well