Dems Weigh Temporary Medicare Expansion

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True, but they still get relatively high wages which will be subject to the tax, unless those crafty tax lawyers figure out a way to comp them in ways that effectively avoid the tax.
 
I feel the walls closing in and I'm sure the indie health insurance carriers do too. If you take away enough of the market from them, then there will be less to go around. Maybe Medicare supplements are the only thing left...
 
The Medicare expansion would apply to those who are not covered and cannot get coverage in the open market due to health issues.

Don't get me wrong Peach, I want to believe that is the case.
Where is this written in the current version of 3962 or elsewhere?


NO, you can't.

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Look, we are a socialist government now. That is not a smear. It is simply a fact.

Sadly, I'd have to agree.
Thomas J. and Ben F. would be kick'n our fat, lazy asses right now if they were here.


NO, you can't.

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Medicare benefits have exceeded Medicare revenues since 2007. It's going broke. Expanding its benefits without big tax increases will break it faster.

Change you can believe in. ;)
 
Medicare benefits have exceeded Medicare revenues since 2007. It's going broke. Expanding its benefits without big tax increases will break it faster.

Change you can believe in. ;)
Thats the part of this I don't get we have a system already flawed and failing so dump some more people onto tat system?
 
True, but they still get relatively high wages which will be subject to the tax, unless those crafty tax lawyers figure out a way to comp them in ways that effectively avoid the tax.

True, but correct me if I'm wrong, Medicare taxation is currently uncapped. Only the Social Security portion is capped. Thus, the only portion to change is uncapping the SS portion.
 
Good to keep in mind that this medicare expansion proposal has not been passed by the Senate or the House yet. Just part of the horsetrading that has leaked out.

The Republicans have positioned themselves as the pro-Medicare saviours now, and have taken that mantle from the dems. Don't assume that pro-medicare equates to 55-65 medicare. It doesn't.

The Blue Hair Brigade will bayonet the younger seniors just as quickly as anyone else who tries to frig with Medicare. Dont bet against them.

You know, if the Senate would get their heads out of their butts and propose a public option as just a high risk pool for the uninsurable we might actually get somewhere. But, no, it is important for them to do the maximum amount of damage as possible or to make it so complicated that no one knows what they are voting for.

An hour ago, I saw Harold Reid on TV smirking to reporters as he alluded to part of what the bill and discussions may be proposing and just letting little tidbits out. WTF? Do you remember the days when Obama said the entire health care debate would be on C-Span from beginning to end?
 
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You know, if the Senate would get their heads out of their butts and propose a public option as just a high risk pool for the uninsurable we might actually get somewhere.


That bit ties in with what I was asking Peach Pit about in my last rant.
So, the medicare expansion to 55 angle ... yeesh, I can hardly type it without clenching my fist ... is, for everyone not just the gimps as Peach eluded to earlier?
I made it till 5 pm today before having my first nerve numbing Red Stripe. Who da man!?!?!


No, you can't.

Ron Paul 2012
 
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So the the answer to fixing Medicare, and to keep it from going broke, is to expand it.
Who would have thought......

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