I agree some loa's can do good . And independent not for all .But i bet his residuals not vested . And the main problem is he can't take off 3 months from selling and just answer his calls and make fat residuals still . He has to hustle foreverMy brother works for spring venture. He is on the side that only sells supps. Not only does he make $20 an hour once he gets to certain number during the month he gets $100 per app plus a bonus. 2 years ago they also started getting residuals. Right now he makes 30k a year on residuals plus his regular pay. He is on track to make $160k this year and he is just an average agent. Several make over 300k a year. Plus he has benefits and 401k. All he has to do is answer the phone and work 8 hours a day. During AEP he is working 10-12 hours a day including Saturday's but even independent agents do that. This company has been around for 15 years and still has not made a profit.