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[gordon112]

My renewals will never fall below that amount. I send all my business to them. And its not a flat $250 across the board. That amount is set by the RD and its $150/m for my agency.

Are you trying to make it out that the agent is getting a good deal by going out and selling a high priced lemon and then given leads that are overpriced old leads that are jammed down your throat but then when an agent steps back and doesn't order them and questions things he is immediately fired?

So what about vesting, it still is 2 years, and guess what, 95% of the agents are not around for 2 years...

 

[jdeasy]

My renewals will never fall below that amount. I send all my business to them. And its not a flat $250 across the board. That amount is set by the RD and its $150/m for my agency.

Whatever amount it is it's stealing and you will lose them if they fall below that amount.

 

[gordon112]

Whatever amount it is it's stealing and you will lose them if they fall below that amount.

Yep, and guess where they get rolled up to, the manager!...

 

[jdeasy]

Yep, and guess where they get rolled up to, the manager!...

I don't know. That's what Greg said here. LH told me they were keeping them. My manager never would return calls or emails after i left so maybe he got them?

I only know for sure who is not getting them.

 

[GMDM100k]

Are you trying to make it out that the agent is getting a good deal by going out and selling a high priced lemon and then given leads that are overpriced old leads that are jammed down your throat but then when an agent steps back and doesn't order them and questions things he is immediately fired?

So what about vesting, it still is 2 years, and guess what, 95% of the agents are not around for 2 years...

Not with the way I do business. Nothing you said describes how I run my agency. LHs policy isn't a lemon either. My clients love the company.

so what's the problem. I'm happy, my agents are happy, and my clients are happy and covered.

I don't stuff leads down their throat. I let them buy as many as they want. I also don't make them use LHs leads. If they want to do a drop with an outside source no problem. I'll even finance it!!

I also never have fired an agent. The agents I lost last year left on their own. I would never fire someone just because they were close to being vested.
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Whatever amount it is it's stealing and you will lose them if they fall below that amount.

If I leave or get fired yes. But I will never leave or get fired.

 

[gordon112]

Not with the way I do business. Nothing you said describes how I run my agency. LHs policy isn't a lemon either. My clients love the company.

so what's the problem. I'm happy, my agents are happy, and my clients are happy and covered.

I don't stuff leads down their throat. I let them buy as many as they want. I also don't make them use LHs leads. If they want to do a drop with an outside source no problem. I'll even finance it!!

I also never have fired an agent. The agents I lost last year left on their own. I would never fire someone just because they were close to being vested.

Are you telling me LH has the lowest rates and you are actually giving competitive contracts to agents. That answer is a big NO.
Those where my experiences with LH back in 2000 that I worked for only 4 months. The managers idea to keep agents happy was to supply them with 420. I guess things have changed, at least you are legal now, although its boaderline!

You are still stealing from agents, and that's illegal in my book. To have the highest rates that are not even in the ballpark is stealing from lower income folks that don't know better. Don't even think you are doing a good job, because that is fantasy land and the cocaine hype that you have been on.

 

[GMDM100k]

Are you telling me LH has the lowest rates and you are actually giving competitive contracts to agents. That answer is a big NO.
Those where my experiences with LH back in 2000 that I worked for only 4 months. The managers idea to keep agents happy was to supply them with 420. I guess things have changed, at least you are legal now, although its boaderline!

You are still stealing from agents, and that's illegal in my book. To have the highest rates that are not even in the ballpark is stealing from lower income folks that don't know better. Don't even think you are doing a good job, because that is fantasy land and the cocaine hype that you have been on.

Let me ask you a serious question... when you go to the store do you buy the cheapest toilet paper? Or the good stuff?

I'm the kinda guy that likes the good stuff. Do I feel that the toilet paper company is stealing from me because theirs is more expensive than the wallmart brand?

No I do not. I don't mind spending extra to get a certain brand that I want. That's the american way.

I also don't mind that I will lose my renewals if they fall below $150/m. My grandfather retired from LH and passed away many years ago and his account is still paying out. Not even close to falling below $150.

The program is structured to reward career agents not brokers that will write one app then leave and expect $3 in renewals for the life of the policy.

 

[gordon112]

Let me ask you a serious question... when you go to the store do you buy the cheapest toilet paper? Or the good stuff?

I'm the kinda guy that likes the good stuff. Do I feel that the toilet paper company is stealing from me because theirs is more expensive than the wallmart brand?

No I do not. I don't mind spending extra to get a certain brand that I want. That's the american way.

I also don't mind that I will lose my renewals if they fall below $150/m. My grandfather retired from LH and passed away many years ago and his account is still paying out. Not even close to falling below $150.

The program is structured to reward career agents not brokers that will write one app then leave and expect $3 in renewals for the life of the policy.

Talk about fluff, you are blind, go sell those lovely LH policies I love to run into them.

 

[jdeasy]

Let me ask you a serious question... when you go to the store do you buy the cheapest toilet paper? Or the good stuff?

I'm the kinda guy that likes the good stuff. Do I feel that the toilet paper company is stealing from me because theirs is more expensive than the wallmart brand?

No I do not. I don't mind spending extra to get a certain brand that I want. That's the american way.

I also don't mind that I will lose my renewals if they fall below $150/m. My grandfather retired from LH and passed away many years ago and his account is still paying out. Not even close to falling below $150.

The program is structured to reward career agents not brokers that will write one app then leave and expect $3 in renewals for the life of the policy.

Comparing LH to toilet paper is a good start but the rest os what you are trying to say is baloney.

If LH had a better product for the client then you would be correct but since they don't it's willful blindness or flat out deceit what you are saying.

 

[senior-advisor-indiana]

Are you comparing Lincoln Heritage to something you wipe your ass with? That's funny stuff right there...