Health Lead Flow

Internet health insurance leads are not a huge part of my marketing plan, but I do buy some.

It seems like the quantity and flow has slowed pretty dramatically from several vendors lately...

Anybody else noticing this phenomenon? What's your take?
The business model that the lead companies are using now may become obsolete. Demand has slowed for several reasons, some that are obvious, some that are not. I have developed a new system that improves lead quality and utilizes live call transfer and fiber optic technology. I am having quite a bit of success with the program, There is non other like it. I am now sold out of leads for the states of OH. KY. IN., and by the end of today, FL. I have been selling internet leads since 1995. I am a 2009 Gold producer with Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield, and a top producer for Medical Mutual of OH. I use the same type of internet leads that I sell.
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Man - for $400 a week - I could have your phone ringing off the hook!

Tom


Always willing to listen to a possible lead source?
[email protected]
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I have experienced a tremendous SLOW in leads since April down here in FL. I have attributed this mainly to the "Obama Factor". The masses have taken everything from him hook, line, and sinker.

Many are on the sidelines waiting to "see what happens". No democrat since Truman has put but a ding into national healthcare. The unemployment rate in Florida is higher than an other state, as this isn't helping things. Typical unemployment can be collected for 6 months and there is now an extension of 13 weeks. The 'responsible' people that got laid off got on Cobra or bought ind. Many have run out of unemployment benefits and have dropped coverage altogether. With more morons per capita in Floreyduh, it has been quite a ride these last few months.

Times like this truly exhibit the value of a big book of reliable business. I think we'll be back on track by the end of summer (hopefully not the end of the year) when dipsh*t announces a few subsidies and and another "promise" to get healthcare on track during his tenure as President.


Oh yeah, I gotta respond to this.
Dude, if I crack and start drink'n again you and me are go'n downtown ... F it, I'll buy ya a freak'n latte?
I like the line about having a book of reliable business.
I could've wrote this one word for word.
The words are denial and irrespondsibility.
I got this classic a week ago from a gent who applied; I think because his wife was pressuring him, and then panicked and called Humana to see if he could get a 65% discount even though he was not on or elidgible for cobra ...
He'll be back once he or one of his kids has a brow raising trip to the e/r, and I'm trying not to hope something happens to him or his, but it was to funny when his wife responded for him that he "just wants to wait and see what happens ..."
For the life of me, I don't know why anything still surprises any more.
That's right amigo, hang on to your donaros, Uncle Obama is on the way with a piñata full of candy for everyone.
Pullllllllllease.
 
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You can buy EXCLUSIVE dialer leads and telemarketed leads for a reasonable price still.

The key is ROI - just like stated above.

If someone can get 3 to 1 to 5 to 1 ROI and not have to chase leads - why not? The lead flow is certainly not dead.

What is your definition of reasonably priced?
 
...yes, it would - with people screaming at me to take them off my list.

Got to agree with Health agent.
Had 5 independant phone lines crank'n at one point. Yeah, you make a sale here and there, but when you factor in the cost of the lines, the dnc scrubbing, the whinning, those who "don't speaka da English ..." one would be better off channeling their resources elsewhere.
Shoot at fish in a barrel; not in the Atlantic ocean?
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That would be the optimum situation, however most new agents don't have a "cultivated" list. Excellent ROI tho . . .



We really don't dial residential except for other industries wanting to blast a promotional message.

I agree on the B2B deal, but it's like rolling dice - your target is to get some of them to press 1. We only need .0025% to press one to get enough quotes to make one sale. Now - by pissing off the other 99.75% - who cares? If they press 2 to be removed - they won't ever be called again by us - if they don't - they'll probably get a call next week.



I doubt anyone says 1 in 5. Our typical results over the last 2 months has been - out of 2,500 dials - 8 to 12 people Press 1 - the majority tell you to "F" off and a quote is given for approx 2 people. Out of 10k calls - about 8 quotes are prepared and one sale is made.

I'm seeing the above stats occur weekly.

Live Transfers aren't for everyone - but they do work in volume.

For those that don't want to take the calls personally, we have a system that will actually answer the transfers for you, Pre-Qualify the client and fax / email the lead to the agent.

Pre-Qualified Bulk Leads - ($99 Monthly Membership Required)

$250 for 10 leads - pulled in one run.

$500 for 25 leads - pulled in one or two runs - choice.

( For residential marketing - the bulk system will be used come 9/09 utilizing a predictive dialer and chicks with sexy voices . . . )

Tom

Here we go ...
So, you "have a system" that will qualify..."
If that means anything les than someone calls these people who pressed one and then gets their info., then that means nothing.
What's the tat (turn around time) on that number number 1 being clicked and the "have a system procedure" and then that "qualified" contact being furnished to an agent.
Here it comes, and of course this is in no way quantifiable, how many agents is this same lead given to?
This is where it gets piled on thick.
Let me guess, only 3? It's an exclusive lead?
Like Health agent stated earlier; there is either ROI or it gets dropped so i don't see the point in all the lies with these different avenues of marketing.
P.S. what kind of filtration are we talking on those 25 leads for $500? $22 a pop !?!?
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I have experienced a tremendous SLOW in leads since April down here in FL. I have attributed this mainly to the "Obama Factor". The masses have taken everything from him hook, line, and sinker.

Many are on the sidelines waiting to "see what happens". No democrat since Truman has put but a ding into national healthcare. The unemployment rate in Florida is higher than an other state, as this isn't helping things. Typical unemployment can be collected for 6 months and there is now an extension of 13 weeks. The 'responsible' people that got laid off got on Cobra or bought ind. Many have run out of unemployment benefits and have dropped coverage altogether. With more morons per capita in Floreyduh, it has been quite a ride these last few months.

Times like this truly exhibit the value of a big book of reliable business. I think we'll be back on track by the end of summer (hopefully not the end of the year) when dipsh*t announces a few subsidies and and another "promise" to get healthcare on track during his tenure as President.

I have experienced a tremendous SLOW in leads since April down here in FL. I have attributed this mainly to the "Obama Factor". The masses have taken everything from him hook, line, and sinker.​
Many are on the sidelines waiting to "see what happens". No democrat since Truman has put but a ding into national healthcare. The unemployment rate in Florida is higher than an other state, as this isn't helping things. Typical unemployment can be collected for 6 months and there is now an extension of 13 weeks. The 'responsible' people that got laid off got on Cobra or bought ind. Many have run out of unemployment benefits and have dropped coverage altogether. With more morons per capita in Floreyduh, it has been quite a ride these last few months.​
Times like this truly exhibit the value of a big book of reliable business. I think we'll be back on track by the end of summer (hopefully not the end of the year) when dipsh*t announces a few subsidies and and another "promise" to get healthcare on track during his tenure as President.​
Oh yeah, I gotta respond to this.
Dude, if I crack and start drink'n again you and me are go'n downtown ... F it, I'll buy ya a freak'n latte?
I like the line about having a book of reliable business.
I could've written this one word for word.
The words are denial and irresponsibility.
I got this classic a week ago from a gent who applied; I think because his wife was pressuring him, and then panicked and called Humana to see if he could get a 65% discount even though he was not on or eligible for cobra ...
He'll be back once he or one of his kids has a brow raising trip to the e/r, and I'm trying not to hope something happens to him or his, but it was to funny when his wife responded for him that he "just wants to wait and see what happens ..."
For the life of me, I don't know why anything still surprises any more.
That's right amigo, hang on to your donaros, Uncle
Obama is on the way with a piñata full of candy for everyone.
Pullllllllllease.
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Although the leads aren't always the best, ProspectZone has only declined two of my lead credit requests.....ever, and I probably return 30-40% of them.

"Not the best," that's an understatement.
No health condition filtration. They keep that info. in house no doubt.
Cannot filter out smokers.
$7 new lead
Gotta question that "30 - 40% return." We did 40 - 50 a day with them and had to fight like hell to get credits after a while. You receive that "30 - 40%" recently?
Sure you or a pal don't work for P zone?
 
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