Here It Comes: Governement Health Plan

If you have a good idea, write it up, send it to the President and copy your legislators and clients and post it on your website.

If you do that and you don't get you way, THEN you have a right to bitch. But not until you get off you big fat Rush Limbaugh ass and DO SOMETHING.

Al

Well wait a minute here. I did not run for president and therefore was not elected along with others on the forum. President Chowderhead did. He said he had the change and plan to go with it in regard to health care. Then the financial crisis came along so we just skipped over that part of the campaign where one would seemingly learn about the plan he said would be just right for us. Now, he and Pelosi are saying they two months away from asking for a vote on their plan but dont know what it is yet, and maybe people will post ideas on the government website to help out a bit.

Doesnt he have a responsiblity to know what he had in mind and to tell us and wouldnt we sort of be getting to the point where he could tell us? I think maybe Dashel was supposed to handle this for him. Now he has no rudder but the engine is still full speed ahead. He still thinks he is in campaign mode where all he has to do is look better than his opponent but not really have any answers. We shall see how that works out in Afghanistan, with health care, and so on.

Change you can believe in. What it is, we don't know yet but you can believe in it.
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Is mandatory car insurance constitutional?


Maybe it will be and guaranteed issue too. Why should I pay more if I have had two DUI's in the last two years and totalled a couple because I was reaching over the back seat trying to find my bong?
 
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Car insurance is not mandatory. Seriously, get past that part, it is completely optional. Of course, driving is optional as well.

If you want to drive and don't want to have insurance, there are other options in almost every state. In general, you are required to show financial responsibility, not insurance. Insurance happens to be the easiest way to do this.

The equivalent would be going to a hospital and proving you can pay the bill before they treat you..... hey, maybe that is the change we can believe in!

Dan
 
The equivalent would be going to a hospital and proving you can pay the bill before they treat you..... hey, maybe that is the change we can believe in!

You know, I'm not much for mandatory government anything, but I am for mandated health insurance. Collect the premiums, where possible, through payroll tax. If people can expect to show up at the emergency room and get treatment, I think they should have to pay for it - somehow.

Don't we have enough entitlements already? How many more can we afford?
 
Easy. Garnish their wages or make them change bedpans or scrub the floors. It's what they would have done 100 years ago, when people had balls.
 
The doctors want the insurance companies to take the hit, while they still make their 6 figures. What about the drug companies 6 figure salesmen, maybe we could lower drug costs by cutting their commissions down to the same amount the insurance companies cut the agents commissions. How about a cap on malpractice suits, and cut the lawyers commissions. It seems like everyone is pointing the finger at the insurance industry. Of course after what AIG pulled it's no wonder. If you are going to cut healthcare costs, everyone in the system is going to have to sacrifice. It can't just be one part, as they have found out with the auto industry. I'm waiting to see how many hospital CEO's and administrators are willing to take a pay cut or give up their bonus's.
 
The doctors want the insurance companies to take the hit, while they still make their 6 figures. What about the drug companies 6 figure salesmen, maybe we could lower drug costs by cutting their commissions down to the same amount the insurance companies cut the agents commissions. How about a cap on malpractice suits, and cut the lawyers commissions. It seems like everyone is pointing the finger at the insurance industry. Of course after what AIG pulled it's no wonder. If you are going to cut healthcare costs, everyone in the system is going to have to sacrifice. It can't just be one part, as they have found out with the auto industry. I'm waiting to see how many hospital CEO's and administrators are willing to take a pay cut or give up their bonus's.

There are of course multiple cost drivers. There is the problem of rising costs for the same procedure but also the problem of aggregate costs from patients and doctors choosing more and more treatment. Most obese people are going to get diabetes. You start out with the goal of providing basic treatment for them but the minute you get them on a full coverage program I can guarantee that a third are going to decide that they have sleep apnea in the next two years two. Gotta get that sleep study. You have dry eyes from burning that woodstove all winter? Restasis.
 
My preference is that if the plan is to either eliminate the agent or reduce commissions to an ROI level that is unsustainable that they just do away with reform and go straight to a single payer system.

If that happens I will adjust its a big license.
 
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