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[rousemark]

I see it as a problem if in his training/website he doesnt disclose he WASNT successful doing the very thing hes teaching! The debate over rather he stole it or not, is debatable I guess....but I would feel duped if I paid for training from a guy who never was successful at what hes teaching!

TD.. Most people that teach have never been successful doing what they teach..

A lot of people take the old axiom, "those that can do, those that can't teach" as an insult but in most cases it is true and there is nothing insulting about it. It is a recognition of the fact that not everyone has the same talents. Some of the best sales people I have known could not teach under any circumstances and some of the best teachers I have known could not sell.

And it doesn't just apply to selling. As a general rule the best college business professors could not start up and build a successful business. And,without a doubt, there are successful business owners that would fail in the classroom.

As far as using someone else's ideas, the rule is if you can find the information in two or more independent sources then it is public information and you do not have to make an attribution. However, I would rather make a statement somewhere in my writing, "many of the ideas presented here are things I learned while working with Scott Burke, Shannon Davies, etc."

Or even the simple statement an old preacher used to make, "I milk a lot of cows but I churn my own butter".

 

[TDFnCali]

TD.. Most people that teach have never been successful doing what they teach..

A lot of people take the old axiom, "those that can do, those that can't teach" as an insult but in most cases it is true and there is nothing insulting about it. It is a recognition of the fact that not everyone has the same talents. Some of the best sales people I have known could not teach under any circumstances and some of the best teachers I have known could not sell.

And it doesn't just apply to selling. As a general rule the best college business professors could not start up and build a successful business. And,without a doubt, there are successful business owners that would fail in the classroom.

As far as using someone else's ideas, the rule is if you can find the information in two or more independent sources then it is public information and you do not have to make an attribution. However, I would rather make a statement somewhere in my writing, "many of the ideas presented here are things I learned while working with Scott Burke, Shannon Davies, etc."

Or even the simple statement an old preacher used to make, "I milk a lot of cows but I churn my own butter".

I get & see your point....but u forgot 1 thing, I never said he had to be successful at it, I said I would feel duped if he DIDNT tell me he wasnt successful at it! Then let me make my OWN decision if i want to use his services or not. So NOT disclosing it is a BIG DEAL for me & frankly DISHONEST....My 3 cents!

 

[rousemark]

I get & see your point....but u forgot 1 thing, I never said he had to be successful at it, I said I would feel duped if he DIDNT tell me he wasnt successful at it! Then let me make my OWN decision if i want to use his services or not. So NOT disclosing it is a BIG DEAL for me & frankly DISHONEST....My 3 cents!

Never known of a professor to tell his class, "I tried to do what I am teaching you to do but I couldn't do it" Most have way to much ego to admit to it.

 

[TDFnCali]

Never known of a professor to tell his class, "I tried to do what I am teaching you to do but I couldn't do it" Most have way to much ego to admit to it.

A professor is different.....when you're in a class you're not looking for your prof to show u how to run a biz in the real world. You're looking for him/her to give you to book knowledge u need 1st, the education u need to begin & have a starting point. Then u go seek out others IN that field for real world applications. Jody is a teacher in the real world, not a prof, so in that case Id want him to be successful at what he's doing before he teaches me.

Imagine if JD gave this forum all this advice & then we found out he produces MY #'s, lol....Im consistent, I make $$$, nothing to write home about tho (yet). But thats not even the same analogy cause Jody never really did anything, so imagine if we found out JD was now coaching UK but charging ppl for FE advice? Wouldnt ppl feel duped here? Not to mention UK would turn in Tulsa, LMAO!!!

 

[rousemark]

A professor is different.....when you're in a class you're not looking for your prof to show u how to run a biz in the real world. You're looking for him/her to give you to book knowledge u need 1st, the education u need to begin & have a starting point. Then u go seek out others IN that field for real world applications. Jody is a teacher in the real world, not a prof, so in that case Id want him to be successful at what he's doing before he teaches me.

Imagine if JD gave this forum all this advice & then we found out he produces MY #'s, lol....Im consistent, I make $$$, nothing to write home about tho (yet). But thats not even the same analogy cause Jody never really did anything, so imagine if we found out JD was now coaching UK but charging ppl for FE advice? Wouldnt ppl feel duped here? Not to mention UK would turn in Tulsa, LMAO!!!

Jody wrote tons of business.. FE101 is about how to sell FE. Nobody said anything about keeping it on the books.. Now, if Jody starts teaching about persitency, you might have reason to complain..

 

[TDFnCali]

Jody wrote tons of business.. FE101 is about how to sell FE. Nobody said anything about keeping it on the books.. Now, if Jody starts teaching about persitency, you might have reason to complain..

Again, I didnt say he didnt "WRITE" business...I said successful. If your definition of successful is just "writing" biz, have at it!! Success, FOR ME includes ALL ASPECTS of the business!

 

[WinoBlues]

Jody wrote tons of business.. FE101 is about how to sell FE. Nobody said anything about keeping it on the books.. Now, if Jody starts teaching about persitency, you might have reason to complain..

Sounds like it boils down to what Newby said. He was very successful at getting in and selling but not at running the business.

On the material, Like Todd said nothing new. I do not know what the material is But if it is a condensed supply Newby post I could see that as valuable.

 

[SportsNut]

And I assume he was closing WAY to hard. That business won't stick.

***Bingo***

 

[xrac]

.....Or even the simple statement an old preacher used to make, "I milk a lot of cows but I churn my own butter".

I heard it said like this. I am like a bee. I gather a little nectar here and a little there but it is all my honey.

 

[jdeasy]

Jody wrote tons of business.. FE101 is about how to sell FE. Nobody said anything about keeping it on the books.. Now, if Jody starts teaching about persitency, you might have reason to complain..

He did not write tons of business. he had one very good month. That's it. He's phony as a $3 dollar bill.
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Sounds like it boils down to what Newby said. He was very successful at getting in and selling but not at running the business.

On the material, Like Todd said nothing new. I do not know what the material is But if it is a condensed supply Newby post I could see that as valuable.

What if he tried to charge you for what newby would give you for free?