Question for Kemper or Columbian Guaranteed

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Have a guy that I sold a $25,000 Gerber guaranteed issue to last August. He now wants another $25,000 but wants to name a corporation as a collateral assignment for beneficiary. I suppose they want some kind of security from him as a business deal or perhaps he owes a loan to them. Anyway, I've talked to someone at both Kemper and Columbian and they don't seem to have a problem with it but wanted to see what you guys think. Do you think either of these companies will have a problem with the collateral assignment, or should I try to get him to name his wife and then change the beneficiary after it's approved? On the other hand, we live in a community property state so the wife would probably have to sign the beneficiary change form in that case. Thoughts?
 
Have a guy that I sold a $25,000 Gerber guaranteed issue to last August. He now wants another $25,000 but wants to name a corporation as a collateral assignment for beneficiary. I suppose they want some kind of security from him as a business deal or perhaps he owes a loan to them. Anyway, I've talked to someone at both Kemper and Columbian and they don't seem to have a problem with it but wanted to see what you guys think. Do you think either of these companies will have a problem with the collateral assignment, or should I try to get him to name his wife and then change the beneficiary after it's approved? On the other hand, we live in a community property state so the wife would probably have to sign the beneficiary change form in that case. Thoughts?


If you talked to the companies and they don't have a problem with it, why would you care what we think? Their opinions are the ones that count.:)
 
Was mainly wanting to see if any of you guys had written something for a collateral assignment and had come across any issues having it issue. I don't always trust what the people at the desks of these insurance companies say.
 
I have no idea, but it's always easier to change things after a policy has been issued.
 
Was mainly wanting to see if any of you guys had written something for a collateral assignment and had come across any issues having it issue. I don't always trust what the people at the desks of these insurance companies say.


I don't have Columbian, but as was pointed out to me last night, it's not really GI. It's more like Settlers Bronze.
 
No health questions, but it does ask you at the bottom of the application if they're confined to a bed, confined to hospital, nursing home, or have a terminal illness. This guy's waiting on a heart transplant but he still goes to work every day. Anyone have a quote for Great Western's ROP product for Louisiana at $25,000 on a 65-year-old male? I have a rate sheet from last September or so but not sure if the rates changed. I'm not appointed with them but may decide to if needed. Do they return 110% in the first two years like most companies? Also, do they let you write before your appointment paperwork is complete or no?
 
No health questions, but it does ask you at the bottom of the application if they're confined to a bed, confined to hospital, nursing home, or have a terminal illness. This guy's waiting on a heart transplant but he still goes to work every day. Anyone have a quote for Great Western's ROP product for Louisiana at $25,000 on a 65-year-old male? I have a rate sheet from last September or so but not sure if the rates changed. I'm not appointed with them but may decide to if needed. Do they return 110% in the first two years like most companies? Also, do they let you write before your appointment paperwork is complete or no?


I'd call those health questions. Not sure if they'll let you write before contracting.

$211.25 a month and yes, they have ROP + 10% for 2 years.
 
Have a guy that I sold a $25,000 Gerber guaranteed issue to last August. He now wants another $25,000 but wants to name a corporation as a collateral assignment for beneficiary. I suppose they want some kind of security from him as a business deal or perhaps he owes a loan to them. Anyway, I've talked to someone at both Kemper and Columbian and they don't seem to have a problem with it but wanted to see what you guys think. Do you think either of these companies will have a problem with the collateral assignment, or should I try to get him to name his wife and then change the beneficiary after it's approved? On the other hand, we live in a community property state so the wife would probably have to sign the beneficiary change form in that case. Thoughts?

I would not have a lender as the bene on a collateral assignment. The insurance company is going to give the lendor the full face. You should name his wife and get a collateral assignment form. I do not know if a GI will have them as this is usually a term market. The reason to do so is then the assignment acts as a lien. IE he dies and the lendor is reimbursed up to the owed amount. The remainder would then go to the beneficiary.
 
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