Realistic FE Production Numbers!

[gordon112]

LOL You're so angry? Any you keep throwing up the race card? Some hindering past issues maybe? LOL You're a trip.
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Wow. I'm sure that only happens to SL and LH policies. I should start writing for all the other carriers I have so I can be successful. It's funny. Anything sold over the phone is always misleading to the customer. Right? Because it NEVER happens in person. Our clients ALWAYS know EXCATLY what their getting. It's the "agent" who always fails to explain everything to the customer.

Common guys. Stop always trying to turn things around to purposely bash certain co's or agents.

So...is thread going to turn into examples of replacement now? That dooooooes happen in FE. Just on here only LH and SL policy's get replaced. Oh right...and AARP "whole life" policy's.

Matt...lets remember that when we first started doing telesales...you were the very FIRST joker on here to call me and sign up. You didn't make through one sales call with me. You hung up. I made the sale. I never heard from you again. So, let's not try and jump on hater-wagon. You prefer field sales obviously. We still almost 2 years later are still growing our telesales co. What works for one doesn't work for another. The only difference is we were successful in field sales for many years and now we are in telesales. In fact, we are preparing to move to our THIRD larger office office since we started to make room for our continued growth.

It's not just LH and SL, its just the fact that every time I run into them I get excited because its a 70% deal I am going to help the client. With other "competitive" companies, it's much less...just saying and speaking the truth..

 

[WinoBlues]

Since most of my replacements are Cash Outs or already Loaned Out policies. There are very few companies I can not replace.

 

[TDFnCali]

LOL You're so angry? Any you keep throwing up the race card? Some hindering past issues maybe? LOL You're a trip.
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Common guys. Stop always trying to turn things around to purposely bash certain co's or agents.

And you're so WRONG (this is the 2nd time Ive pointed that out), but u can never admit it....you're a Dick!

Let me show u how that works....I said WL, JD says its a permanent UL, which I never saw on the policy, it just stated Permanent Coverage. So if it was indeed a UL, my bad on that....but it def wasnt the standard term u assumed!!


That BOLDED statement is a trip as u say....u tell others not to turn things around to purposely bash ppl, yet you just did that to me!

And u did it when u tried to hide your blatant racism by saying it wasnt racist to minorities, but Im a minority & was offended! I guess since you're white, u get to decide whats racists & what isnt...just like all the wht ppl who convince themselves "Redskins" isnt racists cause THEY say so huh??

You will never get it, so Im sure Im wasting my time!

 

[theinsuranceman]

You are constantly whining about LH and SL policies being replaced. Even in this thread. How can you deny the obvious? Unless you are that oblivious?

That is a lie about my being on the national call for EFES every week. I don't even know that have a national recruiting call. And if they do have one I have never been on it. The only call I'm on every week is my manager's call that he has for every agent in his downline. So, that lie is easily refuted. But, you just keep on being scared of me. I must really put a hurt in the telemarketing recruiting for you to personally attack me on a regular basis.

If you weren't so pathetic and a known deceiver I might be concerned about it. Since you are both of those things I don't care.

Please show the post(s) I've made to back up your 1st claim in bold above. You can't.

Secondly, why would I be afraid of someone like you?

 

[jdeasy]

Please show the post(s) I've made to back up your 1st claim in bold above. You can't.

Secondly, why would I be afraid of someone like you?

I don't have to provide anything to back up your fears. You show it with almost every post.

if you aren't scared then why do you care what I think of telemarketers or LH or SL? I don't care what you think of RNA, Americo, or any company I write. I don't care what you think of EFES. But, you so care about my opinion.

 

[GMDM100k]

I don't have to provide anything to back up your fears. You show it with almost every post.

if you aren't scared then why do you care what I think of telemarketers or LH or SL? I don't care what you think of RNA, Americo, or any company I write. I don't care what you think of EFES. But, you so care about my opinion.

JD I'm definitely not trying to get on your bad side. But its not your opinions that people are scared of its of you giving incorrect information that might stop someone from being successful. You don't bash certain companies you just say things that might not be true. You have to be careful some readers of this forum assume that you are 100% accurate. This is not the case always. Not for anyone.

You stated that LH and SL didn't grow. That is not the case for LH. Last year they wrote 99mil in ALP and this year they have over 100mil already. They have grown. Every year that I have been with LH my business has grown. I know that you can state im am lying or that lincoln lies about production but the same can be said about the efes page that states your monthly average is 27k. I know lincoln accurately records my numbers so I assume that their monthly news letter is correct.

Please please please be careful with the facts you state. If even one post you make prevents someone from being successful in the final expense biz, then you have done more harm than good.

Don't let your blind hatred for some companies reflect on the facts you give

 

[theinsuranceman]

I don't have to provide anything to back up your fears. You show it with almost every post.

Come on JD, don't beat around the bush. Just admit it....you can't provide anything showing me being fearful of you or anyone else. Come on.....I'm calling you out on this.....show us something.....
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if you aren't scared then why do you care what I think of telemarketers or LH or SL? I don't care what you think of RNA, Americo, or any company I write. I don't care what you think of EFES. But, you so care about my opinion.

I don't really care about your opinion. But when you start lying about me I do care. Even you should have the intellect to understand that, no?

 

[GMDM100k]

I'm researching final expense opportunity. What are realistic production numbers for the following:
1. a newbie?
2. a seasoned agent?
3. Top 10% agents?

Here's an easy answer to your question.

1) 5k/month for a newbie (if your writing less you might not make it)

2)10k/month for one of my seasoned vets (that will usually get you on an incentive trip

3) 20k+/a month. Top 10% realistically ave this amount from my experiences.

4) 50k+/month. You forgot one! These are the supermen (and women) In my life time I have only seen 2 people ever write more that 50k in one month. In simplified issue whole life (final expense) 25k face or less is what I personally consider final expense. Just a personal opinion.

 

[jdeasy]

JD I'm definitely not trying to get on your bad side. But its not your opinions that people are scared of its of you giving incorrect information that might stop someone from being successful. You don't bash certain companies you just say things that might not be true. You have to be careful some readers of this forum assume that you are 100% accurate. This is not the case always. Not for anyone.

You stated that LH and SL didn't grow. That is not the case for LH. Last year they wrote 99mil in ALP and this year they have over 100mil already. They have grown. Every year that I have been with LH my business has grown. I know that you can state im am lying or that lincoln lies about production but the same can be said about the efes page that states your monthly average is 27k. I know lincoln accurately records my numbers so I assume that their monthly news letter is correct.

Please please please be careful with the facts you state. If even one post you make prevents someone from being successful in the final expense biz, then you have done more harm than good.

Don't let your blind hatred for some companies reflect on the facts you give

Reading comprehension is your friend. I did not say that LH or SL did not grow. I challenged him to prove that they did.

Nor do I have "blind hatred" for any company. if I hate a company it's not blind. And I do hate LH and with very good reason.

I don't know what you are talking about on my average production but I do not average $27,000/mo nor have I ever claimed to. I just wnet to that page to see if they had it wrong and it's my average at $20,000/mo. I don't know where you got the $27,000? With what I have on my desk to turn in I will be a little over $200,000 for the year. Since this is the end of the 1oth month I would say that is prety close to accurate.

You are showing blind hatred towards me because of my knowledge of the workings of LH.
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I don't have to provide anything to back up your fears. You show it with almost every post.

Come on JD, don't beat around the bush. Just admit it....you can't provide anything showing me being fearful of you or anyone else. Come on.....I'm calling you out on this.....show us something.....
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I don't really care about your opinion. But when you start lying about me I do care. Even you should have the intellect to understand that, no?

You posts show your fear. And I have never once lied about you. Nor can you provide any instance where I have. Just more dishonesty from you but that is expected.

 

[theinsuranceman]

JD, just admit it....you can't back up that big mouth of yours. There is no reason to be scared of you. Are all EFES recruiters a manipulator of the english language like you?

Here's a small challenge for you: Show the forum a post I made where I'm expressing fear of you and I'll donate $1000 to your favorite charity (or even the Univ. of Kentucky). I'm "showing you the $$$", now "show us the beef".