Royal Neighbors Changes

I just logged in and they still have the current app and agent guide under forms. I had to hunt around for the new stuff. Call me old school but I like a paper app and spending 25 minutes on the phone sounds awful. That's almost an hour if you have a 2 app home. How long do you think it will be before they make this an option and welcome paper apps again? Changes like this show just how out of touch carriers are with the agents. Seems like they should be making themselves easier to do business with rather than the opposite.

They have the links in the email they sent out. Hard to find it's near the bottom. Not sure I have witnessed such a quick hard line change like this before. Crazy stuff
 
You can still do the old way.

Are you sure on this? My understanding from looking at the new agent guide is that you can do a paper app under certain circumstances but you cannot do the interview at point of sale. Sounds kinda like the rollout of Obamacare here.
 
Are you sure on this? My understanding from looking at the new agent guide is that you can do a paper app under certain circumstances but you cannot do the interview at point of sale. Sounds kinda like the rollout of Obamacare here.

That's how I read it to. Do the paper app and you fax it in then they do the phi. I have used Equitable paperless app for med supp and really like it. Simply run through the questions and make the call.

I felt like these changes were positive.
 
I am beginning to think right the opposite of Galt.. Think I favor companies that offer no POS. Sure, it is nice to get the approval on the spot.. But to what purpose? With most companies, it does not result in any faster payment of commission. A few companies give you the actual policy number at the end and if you're replacing that can be nice because you can go ahead and cancel their current coverage before you leave the house. But, with some of those that don't give policy numbers, they can rescind the approval you received at the end of the POS before they issue the policy. An experienced agent has a very good idea of whether a client is acceptable to a company 98% of the time so the enhanced POS doesn't really do much good in that respect.

The POS helps protect the company somewhat from clean sheeting by the agetns but does little to reduce the agent's liability in case of a claim problem. The family's lawyer will claim that you encouraged the insured to answer no on the health questions, saying that it wasn't really important.

The enhanced POS adds another 25 minutes to an hour (in case of husband and wife apps) to the time you spend on each sale. That is time you could be spending on the next interview.
 
Are you sure on this? My understanding from looking at the new agent guide is that you can do a paper app under certain circumstances but you cannot do the interview at point of sale. Sounds kinda like the rollout of Obamacare here.

You cannot do it the old way. You can fill out the app and send it in and they will call the client later and do a phone interview.
 
That's how I read it to. Do the paper app and you fax it in then they do the phi. I have used Equitable paperless app for med supp and really like it. Simply run through the questions and make the call.

I felt like these changes were positive.

Equitable also allows you to send in the paper app with no phone interview at all unless something turns up on the script check or MIB that they need to clarify.
 
If you do a paper app you can't do a phone interview. But they will call 100% of them and do an interview when you aren't there.

It's not a good change at all unless you are into phone sales.
 
If you do a paper app you can't do a phone interview. But they will call 100% of them and do an interview when you aren't there.

It's not a good change at all unless you are into phone sales.

Yep, just re-read the Agent Guide.

Guess I wouldn't figure a major final expense player like RNA would get it so terribly wrong.

Let's hope they go back to giving an option for a paper app and POS decision in addition to the voice-app.

Travis and John -- does not RNA council you or Equita on product-changes?

How can the people there be this stupid?
 
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