Some Life Agents Have A Lot Of Nerve !

[scagnt83]

Re: Banker's Life Agents Have A Lot Of Nerve !

Here goes the drama queen again.

I'll let you have the last word though. You know nothing about me or my practice, and at this point you're 500 feet above the shark you've jumped over.

All I know about you is what you said. And you said that "door knocking gated communities is no big deal". When in fact in most cities it is illegal to do.

So what I do know about your business is that if you replicated the "door knocking gated communities part" in most cities it would be considered illegal sales tactics .

Try rereading your posts.... or maybe you just talk and dont actually think about what you say.


And at the same time you know nothing about me or my business. So keep talking out your backside... again, you only make yourself look worse.


I simply said that most cities have laws against door knocking a gated community. And that is a fact.
I also said that it is an unprofessional thing to do (assuming you do not have permission and there is a no soliciting sign)... which most people would agree with.

 

[WCMason]

All I know about you is what you said. And you said that "door knocking gated communities is no big deal". When in fact in most cities it is illegal to do. So what I do know about your business is that if you replicated it in most cities it would be considered illegal sales tactics. Try rereading your posts.... or maybe you just talk and dont actually think about what you say. And at the same time you know nothing about me or my business. So keep talking out your backside... again, you only make yourself look worse. I simply said that most cities have laws against door knocking a gated community. And that is a fact. You are the one who took offense to that and created drama.

It appears you're saying most local governments have laws on their books giving legal protection against door knocking to those who put a gate on their community even if no such law protects their ungated citizens. I don't believe that's true in "most cities." Either it's legal in a city or it isn't. The rules prohibiting DK in gated communities where it's legal in that city are just their rules, not the law, in most cases.

 

[scagnt83]

It appears you're saying most local governments have laws on their books giving legal protection against door knocking to those who put a gate on their community even if no such law protects their ungated citizens. I don't believe that's true in "most cities." Either it's legal in a city or it isn't. The rules prohibiting DK in gated communities where it's legal in that city are just their rules, not the law, in most cases.

In many municipalities it is true. If you live outside of the towns city limits there are usually much less restrictions. But inside of city limits many towns, not all towns... but many of them... put restrictions on d2d sales. Staying out of a gated community is a very common restriction in US cities. Again, not all, but lots do.

In my city, within the city limits, it would be a $500 fine if you door knocked a gated community.

Same if you door knocked any residence that has a "no solicitations" sign posted.

You also must have a valid business license on you, business card, shirt with company logo, & company ID tag visibly showing.

You also cant door knock before 9am, or after 30 min before sunset. I think they prohibit d2d on Sundays and holidays too.

Any violation of these things is a $500 fine, repeated violations will get you up to 30 days in jail.

So there is no set rule. My main point is that if you plan to door knock you better go online and look up the law for where you live. Especially if you plan to do it within city limits.

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Anyone notice some political correctness going on for this thread??

 

[rousemark]

In many municipalities it is true. If you live outside of the towns city limits there are usually much less restrictions. But inside of city limits many towns, not all towns... but many of them... put restrictions on d2d sales. Staying out of a gated community is a very common restriction in US cities. Again, not all, but lots do.

In my city, within the city limits, it would be a $500 fine if you door knocked a gated community.

Same if you door knocked any residence that has a "no solicitations" sign posted.

You also must have a valid business license on you, business card, shirt with company logo, & company ID tag visibly showing.

You also cant door knock before 9am, or after 30 min before sunset. I think they prohibit d2d on Sundays and holidays too.

Any violation of these things is a $500 fine, repeated violations will get you up to 30 days in jail.

So there is no set rule. My main point is that if you plan to door knock you better go online and look up the law for where you live. Especially if you plan to do it within city limits.

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Anyone notice some political correctness going on for this thread??

Years ago, some municipalities in TN tried to impose their solicitation requirements on insurance agents.. (permits, name tags, etc.) it was ruled since we are licensed by the state, unlike book salesmen and others, those restrictions could not be imposed on us. Laws against trespassing on properly posted property still apply but a No Solicitation sign is not a No Trespassing sign and there is not violation if an agents chooses to ignore it.

 

[Dan3211980]

Years ago, some municipalities in TN tried to impose their solicitation requirements on insurance agents.. (permits, name tags, etc.) it was ruled since we are licensed by the state, unlike book salesmen and others, those restrictions could not be imposed on us. Laws against trespassing on properly posted property still apply but a No Solicitation sign is not a No Trespassing sign and there is not violation if an agents chooses to ignore it.

Thanks for the information! I work in northeast IN. I had heard similar remarks, but was always hesitant about going into a no solicitation neighborhood.

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[goillini52]

Years ago, some municipalities in TN tried to impose their solicitation requirements on insurance agents.. (permits, name tags, etc.) it was ruled since we are licensed by the state, unlike book salesmen and others, those restrictions could not be imposed on us. Laws against trespassing on properly posted property still apply but a No Solicitation sign is not a No Trespassing sign and there is not violation if an agents chooses to ignore it.

I'd say 10-20% of the doors I knock on have the No Soliciting/No Solicitors sign on the door. I can't remember anyone ever pointing to it.

I keep hoping someone says something so I can say it doesn't apply to me. I'm not a lawyer and I'm not setting appointments for someone else...I'm selling insurance.

Rouse, I got the lawyer bit from you. Thanks.

 

[OHFE]

That's part of their training. In theory, they want agents to learn from each other, or from more seasoned agents. They encourage you to ride with each other. Also, if your on a field day solo you had to set 6 appntmts, riding with someone you had to have 8 appntmts combined.

Ah...ok.
But I was looking at it from the clients perspective. Someone is at your door with another person sitting in the car like they might want to make a quick getaway. I guess both of you coming to the door might be more intimidating.

 

[Dan3211980]

Ah...ok.
But I was looking at it from the clients perspective. Someone is at your door with another person sitting in the car like they might want to make a quick getaway. I guess both of you coming to the door might be more intimidating.

Yeah, it does have a tendency to scare some. I wouldn't worry too much, if that doesn't scare them, the overpriced products will.

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[WCMason]

In many municipalities it is true. If you live outside of the towns city limits there are usually much less restrictions. But inside of city limits many towns, not all towns... but many of them... put restrictions on d2d sales. Staying out of a gated community is a very common restriction in US cities. Again, not all, but lots do. In my city, within the city limits, it would be a $500 fine if you door knocked a gated community. Same if you door knocked any residence that has a "no solicitations" sign posted. You also must have a valid business license on you, business card, shirt with company logo, & company ID tag visibly showing. You also cant door knock before 9am, or after 30 min before sunset. I think they prohibit d2d on Sundays and holidays too. Any violation of these things is a $500 fine, repeated violations will get you up to 30 days in jail. So there is no set rule. My main point is that if you plan to door knock you better go online and look up the law for where you live. Especially if you plan to do it within city limits. ---------- Anyone notice some political correctness going on for this thread??

Much clearer now. There is no set rule. Your city's laws are a nice anecdote, but have no bearing on the "most cities" you cited earlier.

 

[rousemark]

Ah...ok.
But I was looking at it from the clients perspective. Someone is at your door with another person sitting in the car like they might want to make a quick getaway. I guess both of you coming to the door might be more intimidating.

If two agetns are working together, both should approach the door.. I would be leery of a pair where one stayed in the car. Besides, how are you to learn from each other if you aren't "together"?