I actually disagree. Most people would love to improve their health, until they find out they have to change their lifestyle. Can't I just take a pill and still eat my dozen twinkies a day?
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I actually disagree. Most people would love to improve their health, until they find out they have to change their lifestyle. Can't I just take a pill and still eat my dozen twinkies a day?
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There's no debate that preventive Healthcare Reduces costs and expands life expectancy. You need only look 90 miles south of America to those dirty communists in Cuba.
These people are poor, they only spend about $400 per person per year on healthcare, they have an ethnically diverse population and are constantly in a medicine shortage. Yet they live longer than us, why? They have access to preventive care and its embedded in their culture.
These people dont develope diabetes, heart disease or cancer at our rates and dont need medicine at our rates because they are ahead of their Health problems.
Now Im not saying The Communist is the way to go but to ignore or reject out of hand the success and costs they enjoy I believe is foolish.
Cuba's Emphasis on Preventive Medicine | PBS NewsHour | Dec. 21, 2010 | PBS
These people are poor, they only spend about $400 per person per year on healthcare, they have an ethnically diverse population and are constantly in a medicine shortage. Yet they live longer than us, why? They have access to preventive care and its embedded in their culture.
These people dont develope diabetes, heart disease or cancer at our rates and dont need medicine at our rates because they are ahead of their Health problems.
Now Im not saying The Communist is the way to go but to ignore or reject out of hand the success and costs they enjoy I believe is foolish.
Cuba's Emphasis on Preventive Medicine | PBS NewsHour | Dec. 21, 2010 | PBS
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Sorry, but there is much debate. Even the video you mention pushes the 'home visit' as part of the success.
Costs? Nothing here says preventive is cheaper.
Now, you could also (probably more accurately) say that they don't have a McDonalds on every corner and that is what helps with lower medical bills and the slightly longer life.
Again, this type of journalism starts with the end story and then supports itself. It doesn't offer any real proof.
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Costs? Nothing here says preventive is cheaper.
Now, you could also (probably more accurately) say that they don't have a McDonalds on every corner and that is what helps with lower medical bills and the slightly longer life.
Again, this type of journalism starts with the end story and then supports itself. It doesn't offer any real proof.
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I would guess it's the lifestyle that causes the burden on the systems, would the preventive care visits get people to change their lifestyle enough to pay for the cost of the preventive care visits? I would guess not, but it's a guess.
How many obese people are in Cuba? My dad went on a business trip to India recently, the thing that stuck with him: in a week of traveling through the country, he didn't see even one overweight person the entire trip.
How many obese people are in Cuba? My dad went on a business trip to India recently, the thing that stuck with him: in a week of traveling through the country, he didn't see even one overweight person the entire trip.
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How about looking at the food they consume and the exercise they perform daily instead? I'm positive that has more to do with it than any other factor, because those are the two major differences between our countries.
In S. America, grass-fed organic beef isn't a luxury, it's the norm. And beef is eaten in larger quantities in S. America than it is here, yet there is a lower incidence of heart disease, Type II diabetes, obesity, and HBP - yet we've been told forever that red meat is bad for us and shouldn't be eaten more than 2x weekly.
Correlation does not equal causation, people. Arguing 101.
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Oh, OK... One of the poorest countries in the hemispere has one the longest life expectancies in the world because they dont have McDonald's isnt a bad point but doesn't really work when you look at say Haiti.
But look, we all have our own agendas and agendas are driving the HC debate now anyway, but I do believe if youre getting regular check ups and you get a bad cholesterol check at the age of say 30 you might start to cut back on the McDonalds...
Maybe, But Im sure you guys know better.
But look, we all have our own agendas and agendas are driving the HC debate now anyway, but I do believe if youre getting regular check ups and you get a bad cholesterol check at the age of say 30 you might start to cut back on the McDonalds...
Maybe, But Im sure you guys know better.
Health care "reform" is the largest single tax increase ever approved by Congress. It does nothing to make health care, or health insurance, more affordable.
In fact it drives up the cost of both more than if they had done nothing.
All these people saying health insurance will be accessible to everyone are overlooking how much premiums will increase. Even with subsidies, health insurance will be less affordable than it is now.
The idiots that voted for these clowns will get exactly what they deserve.
In fact it drives up the cost of both more than if they had done nothing.
All these people saying health insurance will be accessible to everyone are overlooking how much premiums will increase. Even with subsidies, health insurance will be less affordable than it is now.
The idiots that voted for these clowns will get exactly what they deserve.
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