Top 3 FMO's

[WinoBlues]

Im getting the popcorn and beer for this...and I dont really even drink

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You know, thats a great idea, all of us FEX agents just popping on here and talking, we dont even have to mention FEXcontracting.com. Did I mention that we dont have to mention Fexcontracting.com cause it would be in all our sigs.

ATTN: All fex agents, report for duty and change your tag line.

Not to derail this just a heads up while funny your idea will be slammed as shilling. I do not care, I block the signatures anyway.

 

[Newby]

Just so everyone is clear about who the real "go to" FMO is check my new signature. Scott is this ok with you?

Great signature! I couldn't have put it better myself.

Thank you for your support.

 

[John Galt]

Great signature! I couldn't have put it better myself.

Thank you for your support.

Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Not to derail this just a heads up while funny your idea will be slammed as shilling. I do not care, I block the signatures anyway.

If you block sigs how did you know mine would considered shilling? And so what, shilling ain't illegal, it's just fun. I prefer to look at it as me saying a small thank you for what Scott and Travis and JD as well as everyone in the fex group has shared and taught me. I can't be learnt easy

 

[WinoBlues]

Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If you block sigs how did you know mine would considered shilling? And so what, shilling ain't illegal, it's just fun. I prefer to look at it as me saying a small thank you for what Scott and Travis and JD as well as everyone in the fex group has shared and taught me. I can't be learnt easy

I am cool with whatever anyone puts in their signature. I have been shilling in mine for a year for the same reason. To say thank you.

 

[bboman23]

I really think my main problem I see with FEX is the "Monkey Dust" and can't get this or that unless you are with us. This forum is for sharing ideas and helping fellow agents. Comments like, hey you should have been on the call this morning, that was a VERY GOOD tip about replacing AARP!!! Then Joe Blow agent asks what the tip was, oh you have to be with us to get that. Ok well if that is how it is, don't come on here talking about it. That is hidden recruiting trying to get people to want to come there. If you want to recruit, it does not bother me at all, but please come straight out and say it. Don't use tricky tactics. Do I have agents under me? Sure do! Do I contact them to contract with me, sure don't. I get on here and help anyone that I can if I can. I have had agents reach out to ME! But if I decided I wanted to start recruiting on here, I would put it in plain writing!
I really like most of the people I have talked to that are with FEX and I am in no way bashing them. JD asked to point out the things that they could make better, and this is one big one to me. I don't look at agents as my competition. If your license says Life Insurance on it, guess what...You ARE on my team in my eyes. I will help you in ANYWAY I can.
Fex wants to keep the "Monkey Dust" to themselves and the whole time I have been field training a FEX agent this entire week in Huntsville Alabama. He called me up this weekend asking me a couple questions and needing some help with a presentation and I told him that he was more than welcome to ride with me all week and get some guidance. He said well I would but I like FEX and don't have a problem with them. I told him I didn't care what company he was with and I am not worried one bit about him transferring to me. I just wanted to help him learn how to make money PERIOD!
I bring this up because I have heard said here that field training is not as helpful as a Friday call. He has been on the calls and trust me he has learned a lot more in this one week than he has since he started in insurance. I say that for one last closing comment...Just because you don't offer something, do not knock it. I offer field training, and I feel it is extremely helpful! But guess what, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE the idea of the Friday calls. They are helpful to agents also. Just because you don't offer one thing, don't knock another company that does. FEX has A LOT of good things to offer and an agent will be very happy there. Are they the BEST IMO out there? That is impossible because every agent is different. They will be the best for some and not the best for others....NO ONE will ever be the BEST IMO. Just like one insurance company will never be the BEST! They might be the best for diabetics but suck for COPD.
Sorry for the rant, I just wanted to point out the hidden tactics and "Captive" mentality to get help. I can understand not wanting to give out your secrets, but 2 things...not one thing anyone has is exclusive. Someone else before your time has used/said the same thing. And also if you are not willing to give out your "Monkey Dust" or helpful presentation or script ect, then the only reason you would be on an Insurance Forum would be to recruit correct?

 

[Newby]

A few points about Thad's comments:

Thad posted-Last I checked FEX does NOT have the leads in any way, they point you in the direction of leads. But your marketer talk lauded to new agents that they in fact have, generate and offer leads. You misspoke which is fine but god forbid anyone points your flaws out.

It's true that we do not own a mail house or telemarketing company. But I see that as an advantage. There is no place that has better leads than the free market. The best lead vendors competing for the agent's business. We teach the agents where to get the best ones, what makes one better than another and how to avoid the scams and rip offs. We show the agents where the leads are comming from and we are one of the few FMOs that does not profit from selling our agents leads. If we wanted to buy the leads and sell them to the agents like most FMOs we would appear more exclusive. But we choose to empower the agents with knowledge. We don't try to keep the agents from finding out which lead house their leads are comming from. I don't know of any FMO other than Equita that produces their own mail leads. A few such as yourself do produce your own telemarketing leads but you have admitted that the agents can't rely on those as their only lead source every week unless they want to travel.

Thad posted- I know first hand the offer contracts as low as they can get away with, like everyone else, and yes they can a do have high contracts but it's not the first pass just like everyone else.

I don't know where you get this first hand knowledge but it's incorrect. All agents who come to us get the same contract levels unless they have huge production history. We do not lowball agents. Every one of our agents has at a minimum TransAmerica/Monumental at 115, Mutual of Omaha at 115, Oxford at 120, Settlers at 110, RNA at 105, 5-Star at 110, Assurity at 110, American Memorial at 110, Americo at 115, Trinity Life/Family Benefit at 110, etc. these are our street levels and not a single agent has less. There is no offer of less. Most are posted right on our website and have been for several years.

Yes they offer releases without question if you haven't produced with said company, but if you have it's a little more difficult, I agree with it but your marketer talk alludes differently to new agents.

Any agent that has ever requested a release has been given one with no problem. It doesn't matter if they have sold or not as long as the new FMO signs his acceptance of the contract and will be responsible for any future debts. We use the same release form for accepting agents as we do for releasing them.

If you know of any cases where any agent thinks they have been treated unfairly about commission levels or releases (coming or going) I am definitely unaware of it and would like to know.

 

[Gooner]

I really think my main problem I see with FEX is the "Monkey Dust" and can't get this or that unless you are with us. This forum is for sharing ideas and helping fellow agents. Comments like, hey you should have been on the call this morning, that was a VERY GOOD tip about replacing AARP!!! Then Joe Blow agent asks what the tip was, oh you have to be with us to get that. Ok well if that is how it is, don't come on here talking about it. That is hidden recruiting trying to get people to want to come there. If you want to recruit, it does not bother me at all, but please come straight out and say it. Don't use tricky tactics. Do I have agents under me? Sure do! Do I contact them to contract with me, sure don't. I get on here and help anyone that I can if I can. I have had agents reach out to ME! But if I decided I wanted to start recruiting on here, I would put it in plain writing!
I really like most of the people I have talked to that are with FEX and I am in no way bashing them. JD asked to point out the things that they could make better, and this is one big one to me. I don't look at agents as my competition. If your license says Life Insurance on it, guess what...You ARE on my team in my eyes. I will help you in ANYWAY I can.
Fex wants to keep the "Monkey Dust" to themselves and the whole time I have been field training a FEX agent this entire week in Huntsville Alabama. He called me up this weekend asking me a couple questions and needing some help with a presentation and I told him that he was more than welcome to ride with me all week and get some guidance. He said well I would but I like FEX and don't have a problem with them. I told him I didn't care what company he was with and I am not worried one bit about him transferring to me. I just wanted to help him learn how to make money PERIOD!
I bring this up because I have heard said here that field training is not as helpful as a Friday call. He has been on the calls and trust me he has learned a lot more in this one week than he has since he started in insurance. I say that for one last closing comment...Just because you don't offer something, do not knock it. I offer field training, and I feel it is extremely helpful! But guess what, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE the idea of the Friday calls. They are helpful to agents also. Just because you don't offer one thing, don't knock another company that does. FEX has A LOT of good things to offer and an agent will be very happy there. Are they the BEST IMO out there? That is impossible because every agent is different. They will be the best for some and not the best for others....NO ONE will ever be the BEST IMO. Just like one insurance company will never be the BEST! They might be the best for diabetics but suck for COPD.
Sorry for the rant, I just wanted to point out the hidden tactics and "Captive" mentality to get help. I can understand not wanting to give out your secrets, but 2 things...not one thing anyone has is exclusive. Someone else before your time has used/said the same thing. And also if you are not willing to give out your "Monkey Dust" or helpful presentation or script ect, then the only reason you would be on an Insurance Forum would be to recruit correct?

Ok Ben....I hope we can still be friends after this, but I'm a little pissed.

First. The AARP was directed squarely at me. Any forum memeber who pm'ed me, got the answer. Period no questions asked. Now, why the hell wouldn't I 'save all the good stuff' for my group. I contribute here, as does Scott, JD, JG, Biggin etc... there was nothing tricky or tactical in that post, I was jumping in on a thread...letting guys on here know who I was.

As for ride alongs, for new agents they are stupid...plain and simple. They can't pick up the nuances in a presentation. Ask InsKid, we talked for an hour or so..I know he talked to you as well...he was 0 for 4 before talking with us...what happened after you and I spoke to him...dude went 5 for 5.

Not going to say who's advice was better, it doesn't matter. I will say this..I'm a producer. SNL posted numbers this week for YTD and for the month of May...where were you boss? Saw Agentguy...he beat me by a couple hundo, lol..good job Doug!

What about Assurity, who the hell knows you over there? Don't know if you wrote 5 star or not...bottom line is I can't find anywhere to support the fact your a producer. Sure, you may be a good trainer....BUUUTTTT let's take a look at that.

Last Saturday night you were pumped 1 of your guys ran 24 appointments. I made a smart ass comment that I hoped he wrote 2k in AP. For the record, if I ever book 24 appts and only write 2k..I f'ing quit. He had 17 sits, 4 apps for just over 2k in AP. Dude needs to work on his presentation. Let me think about my day today...5 sits, 12 apps...Monday, 1 sit, 3 apps. It is not about volume, it's about salesmanship and QUALITY leads. Yeah, I could buy crappy TM leads and run all over gods green earth trying to make silver into gold...or I could go to damn mine and pick it up off the friggin ground.

MDF, I'm glad you made some money, but we gotta talk if you're only writing that much off of that many sits.

As far as leads. Exclusive Press 1's..courtesy of JG and myself. Oh and exclusive Life DM lead for $28. That just got released and I'm pumped.

Ride alongs. Travis does them, I'll do them. dwilly couldn't make it today with me...too bad for him...I was killin'em like an Eskimo with a club hunting baby seals. Sirherbie coming along with me next wek sometime. I don't know if he's with FEX or not. Blah, blah, blah...who cares.

In closing...nah, I said enough.

 

[MPCFinPlan]

Battle of the IMOs!

Ben made a great point. Picking a IMO that fits what you need is an agent is a case by base basis.

I think for the majority of the bickering over who wins this pissing contest is more how it was said and less what was said.

 

[Newby]

I really think my main problem I see with FEX is the "Monkey Dust" and can't get this or that unless you are with us. This forum is for sharing ideas and helping fellow agents. Comments like, hey you should have been on the call this morning, that was a VERY GOOD tip about replacing AARP!!! Then Joe Blow agent asks what the tip was, oh you have to be with us to get that. Ok well if that is how it is, don't come on here talking about it. That is hidden recruiting trying to get people to want to come there. If you want to recruit, it does not bother me at all, but please come straight out and say it. Don't use tricky tactics. Do I have agents under me? Sure do! Do I contact them to contract with me, sure don't. I get on here and help anyone that I can if I can. I have had agents reach out to ME! But if I decided I wanted to start recruiting on here, I would put it in plain writing!
I really like most of the people I have talked to that are with FEX and I am in no way bashing them. JD asked to point out the things that they could make better, and this is one big one to me. I don't look at agents as my competition. If your license says Life Insurance on it, guess what...You ARE on my team in my eyes. I will help you in ANYWAY I can.
Fex wants to keep the "Monkey Dust" to themselves and the whole time I have been field training a FEX agent this entire week in Huntsville Alabama. He called me up this weekend asking me a couple questions and needing some help with a presentation and I told him that he was more than welcome to ride with me all week and get some guidance. He said well I would but I like FEX and don't have a problem with them. I told him I didn't care what company he was with and I am not worried one bit about him transferring to me. I just wanted to help him learn how to make money PERIOD!
I bring this up because I have heard said here that field training is not as helpful as a Friday call. He has been on the calls and trust me he has learned a lot more in this one week than he has since he started in insurance. I say that for one last closing comment...Just because you don't offer something, do not knock it. I offer field training, and I feel it is extremely helpful! But guess what, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE the idea of the Friday calls. They are helpful to agents also. Just because you don't offer one thing, don't knock another company that does. FEX has A LOT of good things to offer and an agent will be very happy there. Are they the BEST IMO out there? That is impossible because every agent is different. They will be the best for some and not the best for others....NO ONE will ever be the BEST IMO. Just like one insurance company will never be the BEST! They might be the best for diabetics but suck for COPD.
Sorry for the rant, I just wanted to point out the hidden tactics and "Captive" mentality to get help. I can understand not wanting to give out your secrets, but 2 things...not one thing anyone has is exclusive. Someone else before your time has used/said the same thing. And also if you are not willing to give out your "Monkey Dust" or helpful presentation or script ect, then the only reason you would be on an Insurance Forum would be to recruit correct?

I'm a little offended by this comment Ben. There may be one person that has put more good useful info on this forum that helps FE agents learn what they need than me and that would be JD. But I would have to be second. And I don't think there is a close third. Maybe that's ego. But I have about 1,000 pm's that can back it up.

I don't know of any cases where I have thrown out a teaser without tossing useful info. I've thrown out a few recordings of our Friday calls for all to hear. Also interviews with agents. Can you name any other agency that has made such detailed info available? I don't.

And for you to say you aren't recruiting on the forum is BS. You recruit all the time. You just say to call 360 but you know 360 places the agent under you. Which is fine but why do you feel the need to hide it?

 

[Gooner]

I'm a little offended by this comment Ben. There may be one person that has put more good useful info on this forum that helps FE agents learn what they need than me and that would be JD. But I would have to be second. And I don't think there is a close third. Maybe that's ego. But I have about 1,000 pm's that can back it up.

I don't know of any cases where I have thrown out a teaser without tossing useful info. I've thrown out a few recordings of our Friday calls for all to hear. Also interviews with agents. Can you name any other agency that has made such detailed info available? I don't.

And for you to say you aren't recruiting on the forum is BS. You recruit all the time. You just say to call 360 but you know 360 places the agent under you. Which is fine but why do you feel the need to hide it?

Preach. .