Will this Marriage Finally Be Consummated?

[Lee_CQ]

Interesting Mr. McCann was as recently as 2014 talking about being in the best place because of the dividends, endorsed leads and working with the best minds in the business.

Things change quick I guess.

Yeah, I quit working there.

So who wants the real scoop on this? Post your questions!

 

[CALTCAgent]

Yeah, I quit working there.

So who wants the real scoop on this? Post your questions!

I'd like to hear what you think are the flaws in their system ?

I talked to them recently as I was curious. They will not give many details on their "system" until a person signs contracts. Which makes no sense to me.

1. $75 internet leads
2. 30% commission
3. Not vested for renewals
4. First year comp not vested (anything in the pipeline, or monthly business "as earned" they might keep.
5. Were hesitant to release from contracts if you leave.


Doesn't sound great to me, but maybe I am wrong ?

 

[Lee_CQ]

I think the flaw is not just the system but the way it is all ran from the top down. I don't even know what they mean by "system". Before the merger, the ACSIA side did not make their agents pay for leads which obviously made it a lot better from that perspective but those days are over.

The training is probably pretty good because of course they want you to sell and they have a lot of great agents but aside from that I can't see much reason to stay after you are trained.

Leads are their biggest issue without question. They didn't value the lead people at all and took it all for granted. All the best people doing that quit. I ran the internet marketing division there for a very long time and after increasing sales from the internet by over 1000% you can guess how I was compensated. The only people who ever get credit are these dolts of sales managers who literally serve zero purpose. Leads are way, way down.

In the end it worked out for me because now I have my own business and don't have to deal with that crap anymore. I can't say I would recommend it and your list 1-5 only makes that point stronger.

I mean, if you are paying $75 per lead why would you want 30% plus all that hassle? Seems crazy.

 

[ltcadviser]

Anybody who agrees to sell insurance for 30% FYC needs to have their head examined.

 

[CALTCAgent]

Another thing they keep saying is:

"This is not for the person that is strongly independent". OK what exactly do you mean ? No real definition comes.

I take it to mean, "you better drink the Kool aid and like it". Lots of vague language.

 

[Lee_CQ]

Another thing they keep saying is:

"This is not for the person that is strongly independent". OK what exactly do you mean ? No real definition comes.

I take it to mean, "you better drink the Kool aid and like it". Lots of vague language.

They know those people are too smart so they try to filter them out ahead of time. It sort of goes to show, now that I think about the endless issues I had with agents when working there and how little of issues I've (practically none) in a year of doing my own thing. Talk about a breath of fresh air.

 

[ltci4sure]

Well, I'd caution the audience to believe anything this internet lead wizard is posting here. My sources paint quite a different picture on what exactly transpired with "Mr Lee_CQ", how he "quit" and what the results of his activities were while at the company.
Cheers, Mr.B... a-hem -- Mr. Lee_CQ - good that you have found yourself, my old friends are really happy for you I hear.

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I mean, if you are paying $75 per lead why would you want 30% plus all that hassle? Seems crazy.

The answer is perhaps very simple: comp structure is different than what was described here and you, "Mr. Lee_CQ", should know that. If people are buying their own leads they don't get 30% (likely this number is an invention of the previous poster).

 

[ltcadviser]

Well, I'd caution the audience to believe anything this internet lead wizard is posting here. My sources paint quite a different picture on what exactly transpired with "Mr Lee_CQ", how he "quit" and what the results of his activities were while at the company.
Cheers, Mr.B... a-hem -- Mr. Lee_CQ - good that you have found yourself, my old friends are really happy for you I hear.

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The answer is perhaps very simple: comp structure is different than what was described here and you, "Mr. Lee_CQ", should know that. If people are buying their own leads they don't get 30% (likely this number is an invention of the previous poster).

If people are buying their own leads are you paying them 80%? Oh, you are not? Case closed.

 

[CALTCAgent]

The answer is perhaps very simple: comp structure is different than what was described here and you, "Mr. Lee_CQ", should know that. If people are buying their own leads they don't get 30% (likely this number is an invention of the previous poster).

Can you disclose that number ?

 

[ltci4sure]

Can you disclose that number ?

Let me state it again (in case you missed it before) - I do not work for Acsia Partners, thus I am not at liberty to post anything specific on a public forum on their behalf. You would have to solicit this information from AP. Do you want a phone number? You can get it on their website...

What I do know however (from reliable source) is that what has been posted regarding the price of leads and the commission rate is bunk. At AP there is a choice - either get higher rate and pay for your own leads or get lower rate and get "free" leads. Unfortunately in real world (not on this forum - here people place 500k /year with 0 lead cost) leads do have costs - and the costs are factored in when leads are supplied by the company.