Bad Experience with Final Expense Bootcamp.com

The only thing that I have to say, is that the proof is in the pudding. You have one agent on here who probably had a bad work ethic who failed and is quick to point the finger. Yet you have multiple agents coming to Shannon's defense. As a matter of fact, Shannon's office & Efes don't even require you to do a start-up kit unless that is what the agent wants! I mean, Shannon's team takes you through the entire process from contracting to training and making sure that you are fully prepared before even doing a start-up kit. He wants to see all the agent's succeed but unfortunately not everybody is made for the Lead program......
 
He needs a company that will do some hand holding. He should look into Lincoln Heritage. They will finance your leads, and teach you to sell... there rates are a little higher but you will lean. But beware JD and Newby may follow you around.
 
He needs a company that will do some hand holding. He should look into Lincoln Heritage. They will finance your leads, and teach you to sell... there rates are a little higher but you will lean. But beware JD and Newby may follow you around.

He needs to go to a captive company and learn how to sell

It's not that are to sell this stuff I don't know really why we are all still discussing it to be honest.

See the people every week and the numbers never lie
 
he's honest & upfront....ALWAYS!!

I can vouch for the upfront part 100%


Shannon doesnt grant access to his site til he knows you're committed & have your license

He won't even take your on board whether it be on the retail or broker side unless you cancel every one of your contracts that can't be released to EFES, or he owns every one of your contracts, and this is directly from his mouth to my ear.

Example, I have a Midland contract and he wanted me to cancel it. What 70 year old HBP, Insulin Diabetic, Coumadin taking prospect am I gonna write a Midland product on...you must be kidding...I said no thanks. There is however another EFES up-line that I can only speak highly of and that would be Travis Tubbs.

I am not bad mouthing Shannon, just speaking from a one time conversation that I had with him. There may be more to this issue then everyone drinking the Kool-aid is aware of, and sometimes it it not ahhhl the agents fault.

Ron
 
WOW !!! this is SOOOOOO wrong... I can speak first hand that Shannnon Davey is an amazing individual. I am an agent under him and he has helped me in a very short time become a $25k mo plus annual premium producer. He always takes the high road and is always there when I need his assistance. I also have call BS to your post............ respectfully jim
 
I have spoken to Shannon a couple of times. I was treated with respect and professionalism. He explained upfront how his system worked and that it was through Equita.
sherd
 
I have no idea who the thread starter is or who Shannon is but I do know this. The fact that the guy has never posted before and then came on to bash somebody doesn't necessarily mean his argument doesn't have a leg to stand on.

When I first came on this site it was to let other agents know about the lead company YAL. Until I spoke with another agent having problems with YAL I had no idea this forum even existed. Then when I was told to google YAL I found this forum. And when I did post a complaint about YAL, I was chastised by several other agents sugesting I can't sell, I expected too much or needed to pay more if I expected decent leads.

Just because I guy comes on here and bashes somebody right out of the gate doesn't necessarily mean he is wrong.

Kwammey oh Kwammey where forth are thou?
 
I have no idea who the thread starter is or who Shannon is but I do know this. The fact that the guy has never posted before and then came on to bash somebody doesn't necessarily mean his argument doesn't have a leg to stand on.

When I first came on this site it was to let other agents know about the lead company YAL. Until I spoke with another agent having problems with YAL I had no idea this forum even existed. Then when I was told to google YAL I found this forum. And when I did post a complaint about YAL, I was chastised by several other agents sugesting I can't sell, I expected too much or needed to pay more if I expected decent leads.

Just because I guy comes on here and bashes somebody right out of the gate doesn't necessarily mean he is wrong.

Kwammey oh Kwammey where forth are thou?

Yeah ... But you weren't a hit and run slammer like this person appears to be. You hung around for the debate an backed up what you had to say originally.. From what has been said since about YAL , it would look like you were vindicated.

lsugar hasn't posted anywhere since the original post in this thread so I don't give him/her very much credibility.
 
I think everyone here can see what the truth is already... However, my name is Jared and I have been working in Shannon's office for over 3 years now. I know (and probably have spoken to) almost anyone who has contracted with us during that time. Not one agent I can recall ever tried working B leads for 2 months. The way lsugar's post is worded said leads were "provided" (sounding to me) like they were given to him/her up front. How did this agent get around doing a start up fee? Or buying their B leads up front? We do not put money/leads on the line hoping an agent will succeed. Agents will only get "fronted" leads after they PROVE themselves on their start up package (of A leads). Everyone knows the stakes of the game (or should) before they play. That is NOT how the EFES program works. I am curious to know who this is though! lol
 
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