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How much could I buy Telemarketed Leads and Live Transfers in bulk - say 100 at a time?
States are GA, MS and SC . . .
States are GA, MS and SC . . .
Call Center ??? - Cold Calling Script for FE / SIWL
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chasejordan1
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Your an *** that is not what is says, if the device you are using is capable then you need express written consent. Because the DM leads are old you would then need that consent. The rules are different if you are calling DM leads or similar advertising.
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Please show me in the actually law that says a "Licensed" agent can do more in regards to calling, cold calling etc, then a "telemarketer"? That just makes no sense. The law does not define the difference.
Lets try actually quoting laws.
Telemarketing:
The term telemarketing means the initiation of a telephone call or message for the purpose of encouraging the purchase or rental of, or investment in, property, goods, or services, which is transmitted to any person.
47 C.F.R. § 64.1200(f)(12).
So when a "LICENSED" agent calls "anyone" for the purpose of the purchase of goods or service he is a telemarketer and is breaking the TCPA laws.
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There's a company that sells live transfer telemarketed leads for $16 each if you buy in bulk. But I wouldn't work those leads even if they were free.
Most FE telesales outfits use telemarketed leads in some fashion which is why FE telesales has such a bad rap for low persistency. You'll have sooo many NSF's it won't be worth it. Trust me... you don't want to learn this one the hard way.
Chase, were you aware that an unlicensed telemarketer never could legally make quotes or ask health questions?
I read the law that you are referring to. It was a while back. I will just say that your lawyer should consult another lawyer who knows what he's talking about. Maybe you should go read it yourself before you defend it so vehemently.
I read the law that you are referring to. It was a while back. I will just say that your lawyer should consult another lawyer who knows what he's talking about. Maybe you should go read it yourself before you defend it so vehemently.
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I doubt this applies to a auto dialer or predictive dialer. they are just means to speed up your dialing process using the data that you input - which is neither random nor sequential . . .
chasejordan1
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Dude read the law any device that can store the phone number and that includes an iPhone it then falls under the laws that I've stated also if the device used for calling the lead has the ability to do what an auto dialer does or a predictive dialer does and also a iPhone does you then have to follow the correct rules that I've stated .
These laws are black and white and very simple do we follow them of course not because they're stupid laws but there still the laws and that is why a lot of insurance companies do not allow cold calling for telesales.
I've already stated the exact law you just don't want to read it as it supposed to be you want to interpret it as if doesn't have anything to do with you because you're a license agent.
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we stopped using avatar leads the day they became illegal as well
no we use zero tele marketed leads and zero lists
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What leads were you using in the call center that had the bad of persistency you mentioned earlier?
chasejordan1
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The lead isn't the primary factor for persistenticy issues, IMHO it's the way it's sold, it's the follow up, it's also the company used, but mostly it's the way it's sold.
Unless you're getting truly organic leads from your website the lead in itself doesn't necessarily matter in my opinion.
