Direct Express Carriers

Let me clarify my position for your edicfication.:laugh:

All things being equal it's strictly about price. The same thing for less money. Not too hard to grasp.

But all things are equal so that's where subjectiveness comes into play.

And, I didn't say "no way" to Rearden's question about my policies being replaced. I said doubtful. But I wasn't talking about by anyone. I was making a dig at rearden that it was doubtful that HE could. Since he didn't pick up on the jab I suppose it did look confusing?

Right, now I see where you were going with your comment.

Admittedly, I was a little worried that you were potentially admitting that your were nothing more than a clerk specializing in persuasionless transactions.

Of course you sell value -- you service your clients, you offer them products with extra perks (RNA), all at a competitive price.

My point was that I most likely could NOT replace your existing clientele on price -- even if I offer more coverage for the same price -- because of the value you imbue in your clients.

The bigger point is that value is subjective, not price linear, and driven only in small part by price; that's why we see all sorts of higher priced life insurance products thrive, because people have differing sets of values that determine a purchase.

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All things considered, price IS the #1 factor for most out there. Justifying making these folks pay even $6 more per month because you're a super nice, thoughtful agent...is faulty behavior in my opinion.

Are you admitting you strictly sell Christian Fidelity at all your appointments where the prospect can qualify, despite your commission (55%) being half as low as most other carriers with higher premiums?

PCB -- Price is not the determining factor.

TRUST is the determining factor to making the sale; the terms and conditions (price being a part) are what solidifies the sale.

Your clients are buying YOU, just as much as they are buying the product at the price you are presenting them.

Think about it. How many of your clients bought whatever brandless product they've never heard before you presented it to them, WITHOUT questioning you?

They do so because they trust you, and how you presented the product, and customized it to their goals.

Which brings up a bigger point. People buy life insurance because it solves a problem.

If the problems is paying for a burial, and you can factually sell them on why an $8000 burial is enough, then that's enough, assuming you can fit their budget.

Case in point: I had two different replacement scenarios yesterday. My first prospect had $15,000 in coverage. The $5000 was replaceable on a price-basis.

I presented the argument of dropping the $5000 and picking up my $7000 to help fight against rising prices.

His apathy and experience with local pricing on funerals outweighed any reasoning to increase his coverage $2000 for free? Why? Because he had already solved his problem in his own eyes -- he had the coverage necessary for a burial at a premium level he could afford.

My second replacement had a husband and wife who just took out Lincoln Heritage products. They wanted to be cremated, had enough to solve the cremation funding problem through their two policies, BUT, in conversing with them, discovered that they had a desire to leave additional coverage to the Grandson.

I was able to raise their coverage from $3000 to $5000 each and keep their premiums lower than what they were paying with Lincoln Heritage.

Basically, I uncovered that there was a greater problem to solve beyond cremation (leaving money behind), and presented the solution that could accomplish the task BETTER than LH's, with the added benefit of a better price.
 
"PCB -- Price is not the determining factor.
TRUST is the determining factor"
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I said price, for most, is the determining factor. These folks, who are living govt paycheck after paycheck...are trusting that you are giving them the best price possible while delivering what they need. When we give them the "I'm independent and I represent many companies" declaration, they are trusting that you are actually giving them a price that is among the lowest for the medical issues they have.
Trust is important no doubt. I had a GI recently who trusted me and would have spent the $60 per month for an overpriced UHL policy just because she trusted me. Did I sell that? No, how could I take advantage of that trust when I can appoint with Gerber and get her the same coverage with a 2 yr wait for only $37?
 
"PCB -- Price is not the determining factor.
TRUST is the determining factor"
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I said price, for most, is the determining factor. These folks, who are living govt paycheck after paycheck...are trusting that you are giving them the best price possible while delivering what they need. When we give them the "I'm independent and I represent many companies" declaration, they are trusting that you are actually giving them a price that is among the lowest for the medical issues they have.

So you've changed your argument from "lowest" to "amongst the lowest."

So are you committing a sin when you offer your healthy clients coverage with Transamerica when you refuse to offer them more for less with Christian Fidelity for half the commission?
 
Read my (added) last paragraph. I've never said I'll always offer the lowest price available on the market because I'm not going to appoint with a few of those companies. We're talking about several dollars a month difference, not a buck or two.
Too many agents abuse that trust you speak of....and place people in policies that will pay them more commission while costing the client much more than they had to pay.
When I shop, I am looking for the best price I can find....not the sales clerk I can trust the most.
 
I just got replaced for $3/mo. I had told the lady that RNA was not the lowest cost and she agreed that she liked him because of the benefits and such.

Now she doesn't. But she is allowing me to come by and see if I can do better than what she did so I'll probably save it. She went with MoO.
 
Re: Direct Express Carriersith

Read my (added) last paragraph. I've never said I'll always offer the lowest price available on the market because I'm not going to appoint with a few of those companies. We're talking about several dollars a month difference, not a buck or two.
Too many agents abuse that trust you speak of....and place people in policies that will pay them more commission while costing the client much more than they had to pay.
When I shop, I am looking for the best price I can find....not the sales clerk I can trust the most.

With that perspective, do you know how many people you are screwing over on value of price and coverage by not offering Christian Fidelity? You could easily add thousands of dollars in coverage, or save hundreds annually if you would do the right thing!

Sarcasm aside, the whole "Moral Imparative" angle of selling the lowest premium is lame.

At least I admit I sell what favors me first. Most of the time it aligns with what favors the clients goals.

When it doesn't, I am still satisfying the client's goals, but also making sure I am compensated for what I am worth (full comp on Graded and over 80 business with United Heritage, and writing simplified issue policies on simplified issue prospects).
 
If I could place a small, tiny, classified ad in my local paper that said 'Best Rates for Final Expense' for a negligible cost, and have my phone ring consistently, I might be inclined to write CF for those folks.

Or an agent could do the same ad in the yellow pages.

If the prospect ignores these marketing channels, and essentially forces me to mail DM to thousands of people before they respond...then they're getting the carrier I'm offering. ..be it the best price, best commission, easiest to work with, fastest to pay, or best reward trip. ...it's my business and I decide how to run it.

Agents are under absolutely no obligation to offer best price, neither are the carriers.

For example, I had an applicant awhile back who just didn't look right...I wasn't catching the vibe....i put him with a PHI carrier on their mid level plan just to be safe and get it approved.
I could have risked it with a cheaper program, but i didn't want a hassle if it didn't get past uw
Never lost a seconds sleep...paid and still on the books.
 
I just got replaced for $3/mo. I had told the lady that RNA was not the lowest cost and she agreed that she liked him because of the benefits and such.

Now she doesn't. But she is allowing me to come by and see if I can do better than what she did so I'll probably save it. She went with MoO.

MoO is a price buster.... Looks like you will have to go in with Christian Fidelity....LOL
 
How much cheaper is CF on average?

10-20% depending on Age/Sex/Tobacco. KSKJ Life consistently beats them at 60+ and CF is usually tops 50-59.

Big thing with CF is the agent takes a big hit on commission, where with KSKJ the agent does not (Still lower that most FE companies 100% FYC-Street). That is why I use KSKJ for a pure price buster.

Both have tighter underwriting though, so it is not always easy to get the best rate for either company.
 
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