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I just heard a bariatric surgery commercial on the radio and they referred to obesity as a disease.

It is a disease of the adipose tissue. Except for the rare individual who purposefully seeks to become obese, I do not think anyone chooses to become obese. The same dysfunction that can make a guy like you or me fat, or "overweight," in another person gets so far from normal function that weight just piles on, while all the while the person's muscles and organs are starved for energy because the body makes fat storage a one way street rather than a two way street.

The root cause is insulin resistance. This is what dumb doesn't get: These people don't get fat because they overeat. They over eat because they are fat and their fat cells refuse to let energy out. Why do they still get hungry? Because their own body is literally starving itself to death from the inside out.

Anyone who has gone keto will tell you that once your body has quit sugar burning and gone into fat burning mode, hunger becomes quite mild and controlled. But star eating the carbs and gain just four or five pounds and the binge eating follows soon after.
 
These Are the Best and Worst Diets of 2020

The 3 diets rounding out the bottom of the list are:

35. Dukan Diet

34. Ketogenic Diet

33. Whole30 Diet

These three diets were voted too restrictive and unsustainable long term. They all cut out entire food groups (see everything you can and can't eat on the keto diet), which means it's harder to get all the nutrients you need. The ketogenic diet continues to be very popular—probably because while it's not considered a healthy diet overall, it was voted number 3 in the fast weight-loss diet category. While it's true you'll probably lose weight on one of these diets, they won't be the ones keeping you healthy and nourished year after year.
 
These three diets were voted too restrictive and unsustainable long term

"voted" by whom? A bunch of vegan advocates and low-fat diet hold outs.

Too restrictive? "Can't get all the nutrients you need?"

There are essential amino acids (aka Protein) and there are essential fatty acids (aka Fat). There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. Not one. Vegan babies are dying of malnutrition. Lack of animal protein and animal fat kills human children. No child ever died because he ate nothing but hot dogs without the bun.

These type of articles just show the problems created when the Demokrats decided in the 70's that they knew better than mother nature what we should eat. They politicized the science and so now we get articles where unknown groups of elites who already believe they know what is best for us "vote' on the best diet.

"Yes, we know these three diets are best for weight loss, but they involve eating animals and cutting out the most profitable food categories for Post, Kellogg, Kraft and all of our other big sponsors. There for they may be the best for losing weight, lowering your blood pressure, curing type 2 diabetes, preventing heart attacks, strokes, and cancer; but nonetheless we vote that they are bad voodoo.
 
The only consensus on diets I know of is that diets don't work. This is headed to the graveyard of diets, just like the rest.:yes:
Deep down people know how to lose weight, they just don't want to pay the price. Except the high price they pay to the charlatans promoting this garbage.:wacko:
 
PA Bill said:

The only consensus on diets I know of is that diets don't work. This is headed to the graveyard of diets, just like the rest.:yes:

Deep down people know how to lose weight, they just don't want to pay the price. Except the high price they pay to the charlatans promoting this garbage.


Agreed. I know two people that have stuck to Weight Watchers long term, with great results, probably because it doesn't eliminate any particular food group(s).

One of my sisters is always doing a "fad" diet (paleo/keto/low-carb) etc and it's a pita. My mother finally got tired of it and stopped catering to her at the holidays. I tune it out after a while just like with religion and politics.

Eat, drink, exercise in moderation and enjoy.
 
Except the high price they pay to the charlatans promoting this garbage.

Hey @goillini52 ... how much did you pay to your keto charlaton?

Knowledge is power. In the end "keto" is short for eat meat, vegetables, berries, and nuts.
"Keto" or "ketogenic" is just a word that describes scientifically what the diet does for the human body: It turns us into fat burners instead of fat storers. It really doesn't need to be controversial except for the folks who have a vegan axe to grind or those who are happily ignorant of the FACT that the whole "low-fat high-carb scam" that became government policy in the 1970's is, in fact, the exact opposite of what humans should eat.

This is simple: If people do what their doctors and teachers and politicians say is the right thing to do, can you really blame them if the result is diabetes and overweight or even obesity? Isn't that blaming the victim?

After nearly 50 years of government supported bad advice, is it any wonder that the world is skeptical of the truth and that many will continue to sit there eating there 27 servings of carbs each day?

Read Nin Teicholz's Big Fat Surprise, read Gary Taubes Good Calorie, Bad Calorie, and Why We Get Fat.

I am telling you, "eat low-fat and high carb" is the "buy term invest the difference" of the diet world. Most of use here realize that buy term invest the difference is not truly optimal with respect to personal finances, and yet we still see insurance agents and financial advisers cling to it like religion. Same goes with dieting: Despite the diabetes and obesity epidemic that did not exist before "low-fat high carb" became government policy, it sounds good and almost logical: "Fat makes us fat" sounds logical even though the exact opposite is true.
 
Hey @goillini52 ... how much did you pay to your keto charlaton?

Knowledge is power. In the end "keto" is short for eat meat, vegetables, berries, and nuts.
"Keto" or "ketogenic" is just a word that describes scientifically what the diet does for the human body: It turns us into fat burners instead of fat storers. It really doesn't need to be controversial except for the folks who have a vegan axe to grind or those who are happily ignorant of the FACT that the whole "low-fat high-carb scam" that became government policy in the 1970's is, in fact, the exact opposite of what humans should eat.

This is simple: If people do what their doctors and teachers and politicians say is the right thing to do, can you really blame them if the result is diabetes and overweight or even obesity? Isn't that blaming the victim?

After nearly 50 years of government supported bad advice, is it any wonder that the world is skeptical of the truth and that many will continue to sit there eating there 27 servings of carbs each day?

Read Nin Teicholz's Big Fat Surprise, read Gary Taubes Good Calorie, Bad Calorie, and Why We Get Fat.

I am telling you, "eat low-fat and high carb" is the "buy term invest the difference" of the diet world. Most of use here realize that buy term invest the difference is not truly optimal with respect to personal finances, and yet we still see insurance agents and financial advisers cling to it like religion. Same goes with dieting: Despite the diabetes and obesity epidemic that did not exist before "low-fat high carb" became government policy, it sounds good and almost logical: "Fat makes us fat" sounds logical even though the exact opposite is true.
It's not low fat/ high carb, but eat whatever the hell I want. I just was never a glutton for food and don't really eat that much or consume much sugar (soda, alcohol). I always figured there are people starving in this world and am grateful to have any food at all.
Obesity and diets are absolutely a first world problem.:idea:
 
It's not low fat/ high carb, but eat whatever the hell I want.

You are in a small percentage of the population who can do that and that is great for you. But that is a very small percent of the population who can truly eat whatever they want and remain healthy.

You might also be one of the many who are doing harm, but because you appear fit and trim you are unaware of the possibility that you are accumulating far more dangerous visceral fat around your organs rather than subcutaneous fat between the skin and muscle.

This is a condition known as "TOFI," for "thin outside, fat inside." Or what the doctors call "metobolically obese normal weight." The first indication that one has that this is occurring is a diagnosis during a routine physical of that one has elevated liver enzymes in the blood or has become pre-diabetic (or both).

Diet is a world-wide problem because we Americanos have exported our good intentions all over the world.
 
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