EV Takes 4 Days to Charge

[goillini52]

If they don't have many gasoline ICE cars, or EV's, what are they driving? Diesel?

I think fed up was quoting Tyler in the 1st sentence.

 

[whatyouwantfinally]

Give the charger industry half the amount of subsidies the oil & gas industry receive and see how many chargers you see. Perhaps you would see even more chargers than gas pumps if that happened.

You cant compare the progress of an industry with little to no subsidies vs. one that recieves the most subsidies not just in the US but throughout the entire world.

Explain what you think these "subsidies" are and how much they are. But before you do, consider that what you said is false. Because it is.

Funny how people think the US is incapable of doing this, yet other countries easily have accomplished it. You barely see gas cars in Switzerland or Sweden. Norway has been giving very large subsidies and they are now around 40% of all on road cars. Iceland is around 40% as well.

Switzerland abruptly ended incentives for electric cars and is considering banning their use in the winter if other energy-saving methods don't pan out. Oops.

Universal healthcare, electric cars.... appearently only the europeans are capable of things that complicated.

The Europeans, benefactors of endless American $/innovation/cheap drugs...like giving your kid a huge allowance then wondering why he has so much $ to spend...

 

[WinoBlues]

Give the charger industry half the amount of subsidies the oil & gas industry receive and see how many chargers you see. Perhaps you would see even more chargers than gas pumps if that happened.

And the only people who need to charge are the ones who have driven close to 300 miles that day. Most people just charge at home.

You cant compare the progress of an industry with little to no subsidies vs. one that recieves the most subsidies not just in the US but throughout the entire world.

Funny how people think the US is incapable of doing this, yet other countries easily have accomplished it. You barely see gas cars in Switzerland or Sweden. Norway has been giving very large subsidies and they are now around 40% of all on road cars. Iceland is around 40% as well.

Universal healthcare, electric cars.... appearently only the europeans are capable of things that complicated.

You are quoting the wrong person. I am simply talking about the reality of today and tomorrow not someday. In the number one EV state in the US. By a margin.

Make an EV close to the same reliability, convenience, and cost as my tried and true ICE and I would search out and by one as my primary. Not have to be Told to do it or else. By the shepherd. I am no really a flock type.

 

[vic120]

Give the charger industry half the amount of subsidies the oil & gas industry receive and see how many chargers you see. Perhaps you would see even more chargers than gas pumps if that happened.

And the only people who need to charge are the ones who have driven close to 300 miles that day. Most people just charge at home.

You cant compare the progress of an industry with little to no subsidies vs. one that recieves the most subsidies not just in the US but throughout the entire world.

Funny how people think the US is incapable of doing this, yet other countries easily have accomplished it. You barely see gas cars in Switzerland or Sweden. Norway has been giving very large subsidies and they are now around 40% of all on road cars. Iceland is around 40% as well.

Universal healthcare, electric cars.... appearently only the europeans are capable of things that complicated.

Yes farmers are getting scarcer, so is heat and electricity too

Probably less tree's too as some are resorting on cutting their own firewood to keep warm this winter

Yup they got this

 

[somarco]

I think fed up was quoting Tyler in the 1st sentence.

Yes, I got that. It's the 2nd part of his post that I am addressing.

I presume @fed up recently visited Switzerland and didn't see many EV's. My guess is that would be correct. Cold weather and batteries don't play well together.

Diesels supposedly do well down to 15 degrees or so . . . not as well below that

 

[WinoBlues]

OK sitting outside tool store waiting for it to open.

Not a single EV in sight. A grip of devil ICEs with blue collar types.

A quick search- I know, it is Wikipedia-
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_electric_vehicles_in_California

 

[suranceman]

When the product is ready no one has to push people to buy it. The government never had to have programs to push us away from typewriters or cassette tapes.

Right now electric vehicles aren't there yet. They are for early adopters that get a thrill being first and are fine putting up with inconvenience in exchange for being looked at as a trend setter.

Make the experience better than it is for owning a regular vehicle and people will naturally migrate over. It's easy to see that the product isn't there yet and the world isn't ready for the masses to drive ev's. Check back in 10-years.

And if the politicians really thought the world was going to end any time soon from emissions they would ban private jets by noon today. They not only don't ban them, they use them for every day transportation themselves. You get the truth not by what they say but what they do.

They also buy properties that would be underwater soon if their "predictions" came to fruition.

 

[WinoBlues]

They not only don't ban them, they use them for every day transportation themselves. You get the truth not by what they say but what they do.

Same is true of what they, their families and businesses drive.

Do as they say. Not as they do.

 

[WinoBlues]

Here is an article that gives some options. From Forbes.

""In sum, the electrification of the automobile sector is an important step to addressing the climate challenge. However, policymakers should issue EV mandates only after figuring out how to ensure uninterrupted electricity supply. California's numerous Flex Alerts remind us that policy initiatives, such as permitting reforms and supporting nuclear energy, both historically unpopular with climate groups, might be required to relieve supply bottlenecks in generation and transmission.""

[EXTERNAL LINK] - California Is Facing An Electricity Crisis. But It Has Also Mandated A Switchover To Electric Vehicles

 

[scagnt83]

Switzerland abruptly ended incentives for electric cars and is considering banning their use in the winter if other energy-saving methods don't pan out. Oops.

They ended incentives because the price for electric cars reached parity with gas cars.

They are not banning them. That is from a false social media post that went viral among right wing media outlets.

A government agency prepared a report on the hypothetical situation if there was an extreme energy crisis. One of the many ideas was to limit the use of charging EVs. Not banning them, but limiting when and how they can be charged. And its all hypothetical.

The report with suggestions is not a law. Its not being considered as a law.

Stop watching Fox news. All they are doing is reporting social media myths.

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/no-switzerland-is-not-banning-electric-cars/

[EXTERNAL LINK] - Fact check: False claim that Switzerland is banning electric cars