Final Expense Phone Qualifying Is Working

My offer still stands, Greg! Will you take me up on it?

AP may be lower but your expenses are also lower. What matters is how much profit did you make per hour with each method.

You are half-way to doing FE tele-sales. You see the time savings and expense savings already. This would be even greater if you decided to go "all in" with FE tele-sales.

(I still want a crack at your rejected leads).

(Face 2 face appointments of 1:45-2 hours are not necessary.)
 
So my results from pre-qualifying FE this week is 6 apps. Done on 25-30 leads (giving a range because some of them needed replacement and were duds).

Didn't sell one appointment because she didn't want it drafted on her husband's bank account because he's in the hospital recovering from a stroke (although she said she'll ask hubby if she can -- ya right).

Bunch of stuff in the pipeline for next week, as many of the people I talked to couldn't set appointments this week for a particular reason.

The great thing is I disqualified a bunch of leads who hadn't urgency, couldn't qualify, were broke, etc.
Were your app results this past week from using the batch of press 1 leads that you purchased or from other lead sources?
 
At this point in time I am unclear on whether press one leads are illegal or not. Is there a Harvard Law Degree holder in the house?

Going once, Going twice,

OK Josh we will listen to what you think is legal one more time. Can you repeat it for the record? Do you I am going to jail this week or next? I have a double bypass scheduled in 3 weeks, do you think they will let me out for that?

I just 15 hot off the press ONE leads. but I am kinda scared to call em.

But wait my kids needs shoes, the house needs a roof and the 911 needs a clutch. Sorry Josh i need the money as I am desparate. I promise to quit next week though. Maybe i can get my upline to write me a script for Chantix! I got to get this monkey off my back.
 
They can be -- he and I used voicemail press-1 leads.

Call back? I thought press 1 were live transfers.
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NFL -- could you get your upline at PHR to comment on his concerns of the legality of these leads?

I know he reads these forums and is a respectable upline -- I'd like to hear his opinion on this matter.


-Dave

At this point in time I am unclear on whether press one leads are illegal or not. Is there a Harvard Law Degree holder in the house?

Going once, Going twice,

OK Josh we will listen to what you think is legal one more time. Can you repeat it for the record? Do you I am going to jail this week or next? I have a double bypass scheduled in 3 weeks, do you think they will let me out for that?

I just 15 hot off the press ONE leads. but I am kinda scared to call em.

But wait my kids needs shoes, the house needs a roof and the 911 needs a clutch. Sorry Josh i need the money as I am desparate. I promise to quit next week though. Maybe i can get my upline to write me a script for Chantix! I got to get this monkey off my back.
 
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NFL -- could you get your upline at PHR to comment on his concerns of the legality of these leads?

I know he reads these forums and is a respectable upline -- I'd like to hear his opinion on this matter.


-Dave

I'd also love to hear their explanation.


OK Josh we will listen to what you think is legal one more time. Can you repeat it for the record? Do you I am going to jail this week or next? I have a double bypass scheduled in 3 weeks, do you think they will let me out for that?

I just 15 hot off the press ONE leads. but I am kinda scared to call em.

But wait my kids needs shoes, the house needs a roof and the 911 needs a clutch. Sorry Josh i need the money as I am desparate. I promise to quit next week though. Maybe i can get my upline to write me a script for Chantix! I got to get this monkey off my back.

I never made the accusation that you were desperate, that was another gentleman.

Again, if you don't want to make money honestly then such is your right, but anyone willing to work with an upline that sells them leads that are generated illegally should find another upline to work with. There is no excuse for that type of behavior. This isn't even a grey area, it's a black and white issue.


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Honestly? Josh, your holier than thou attitude makes me want to puke. Your an insurance man, not a priest or doctor.. Your a salesman. Get off your high horse and act like one.

Ever drove more than the speed limit? Ever crossed the street in the middle of the block? ever slept with your neighbors wife? You act like some saint and your not. Your a salesman. The rest of the world including your neighbors, your relatives and your fellow church members think your a lieing theiving low-life scum bag; so start acting like one. Take a short cut like a real salesman.

While your doing things your way, as if someone actually beleives you, a real salesman is probably out there eating your lunch.Your doing a dis-service to the real salemen of rthe world

I bet you sing in the choir, too.
 
Honestly? Josh, your holier than thou attitude makes me want to puke. Your an insurance man, not a priest or doctor.. Your a salesman. Get off your high horse and act like one.

Ever drove more than the speed limit? Ever crossed the street in the middle of the block? ever slept with your neighbors wife? You act like some saint and your not. Your a salesman. The rest of the world including your neighbors, your relatives and your fellow church members think your a lieing theiving low-life scum bag; so start acting like one. Take a short cut like a real salesman.

While your doing things your way, as if someone actually beleives you, a real salesman is probably out there eating your lunch.Your doing a dis-service to the real salemen of rthe world

I bet you sing in the choir, too.

That's a fairly interesting tone.

We're not talking about going a few miles of the speed limit, we're talking about violating a law that comes with a fine of up to $16,000 per *call*.


The rest of the world including your neighbors, your relatives and your fellow church members think your a lieing theiving low-life scum bag; so start acting like one.

That's an unfortunate world view. I very much doubt my neighbors, relatives, and fellow church members think I'm a lying, thieving, low-life scumbag. However, regardless of what they or anyone else thinks, I'm not going to start acting like one.

Take a short cut like a real salesman.

I don't think one needs to overtly break serious laws in order to be a "real salesman".

Again, it's your money and your license on the line, not mine. Do whatever makes you sleep well at night. That said, if you do have a double-bypass scheduled soon and it infuriates you this much to have someone on the internet point out that you're working leads that you know were generated illegally, consider this: what is it going to do to your heart if you do end up being fined above and beyond your means or if the carriers you represent get dragged into this and would rather pull your contract and report it as an at-fault termination than find themselves on the chopping block with you? You think the carriers are going to do anything but throw you under the bus?
 
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