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Again, I don't enjoy babysitting. I only oversee those I've trained.What FMO did she come from?
If your leads are that good, you ought to get back into the lead business.
Final Expense Telesales Tips - The Reboot!
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Is it just me? Does anyone else feel that some of the crap stirrers up here never add any value of any kind up here? All they do is constantly cause conflict for their weak entertainment purposes. And they're up here all day and night 7 days a week.
Talented individuals that used to post up here now avoid posting any helpful advice because someone is going to launch a verbal attack to try to make their weak insecure self look important. I believe the forum would be a much better place if these crap stirrers were removed. Anyone else agree with that?
Talented individuals that used to post up here now avoid posting any helpful advice because someone is going to launch a verbal attack to try to make their weak insecure self look important. I believe the forum would be a much better place if these crap stirrers were removed. Anyone else agree with that?
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100% agree. I don't want to create a space where you can't disagree or have fun, but those that are obviously seeking to mitigate influence because they have an axe to grind. You and I probably don't agree on a lot of things, but having civil discourse is huge.
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I've made a personal decision to block the people who consistently come on here only to troll. They insist on dragging most threads through the dirt.
goillini52 and DayTimer are the first two to make the list. I recommend those of you wanting to collaborate and learn together do the same.
goillini52 and DayTimer are the first two to make the list. I recommend those of you wanting to collaborate and learn together do the same.
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Yea....goillini52 seems to never really add much value to this forum. It seems his only purpose up here is to cause arguments and conflict. His behavior up here makes me think he has some psychological issues. Normal people just don't do those things.
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Who says I'm normal?
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Who says I'm normal?
Whether you are normal or not you add very little value to this forum. You act like that little brat who is always looking for attention. Insecurity or low self-esteem maybe?
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Well, guys, let's don't start yet another argument by calling out people by (screen)name. This thread's been going great, so far. I'd hate to see it suffer a similar fate to its namesake! (And I don't want to block anybody. I like you all, even when you get crusty!)
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It isn't just you. Just about every other vendor, marketer, recruiter, agency owner, agency builder, etc. who is here primarily to recruit, grow theirs or someone else's downline, sell leads, and generally just wants to find a way to make or take money from agents probably feels the same way that you do.
What all of you recruiter agency owner types miss is that this forum, for the regular working guy or gal, is not only a place to ask questions and learn a thing or two, but it is a place to swap stories, fool around, and unwind.
Years ago I was an auto mechanic at a large Lincon/Mercury dealer. Everyday after work all of us guys would head to the bar right at the other side of our lot, and we'd hang out for an hour or six. This place is a lot like that bar (although this one is BYOB). But the car dealer managers didn't hang out with us very often. And when they did, they dropped all pretense of being the boss and gave no hint of moral superiority. Compare that to just about every single one of you builder types with your frequent weak-kneed appeals to the moral high road.
It was a working man's bar. And this place is a lot like that for many of us: a working man's bar. And we look at the world differently from you. And y'all never tire of letting us know about it.
So, where someone like you, and more particularly some of the other recruiters who really have nothing invested here (note how they will often demean someone else by making reference to post count or post content). These recruiters/builder/vendors/ don't get it, they don't come by often enough to get to know us or learn the admittedly unwritten rules.
Marketers and Recruiters are, in the words of @jdeasy "company men." We don't expect company men to like us, much less care an iota to understand us. And some of y'all like talk smack about JD. I guarantee you every time you do - any of you - you drop a bit lower in the estimation of almost all of us here who know JD. There aren't many of us who wouldn't trade all of y'all to get JD back on this forum.
So, we get that you see little or no value in our shenanigans. But there are a bunch of us who find great value in hanging out, talking shop, shooting the $hit, and, yes, sometimes talking smack.
And for what it's worth, except for the terminally naive among us (and there are a few), we all, for the most part see right through the transparently obvious attempts to post "value-added" content for what it is - naked attempts to flush freash meat out into the open for your recruiting pitches. There are very few guys like @Rearden who truly posts consistently high-value content. He's been here for going on 10 years. He started as a working man and even as a builder we can all see he works his a$$ off. And when he does get called out for something by one of us lowly working stiffs, he rolls with it like a champ. He isn't a whiny little skeeter like some who drop by once a month and then wonder why they don't feel the love.
So no, it isn't just you who feel we offer nothing of value. But there are far more of us who feel very much the same way about all of you company men.
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