Finding Info on Selling Final Expense by Phone
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islabucasgrande
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While "theinsuranceman" is undoubtedly right, I think what was said beforehand isn't Libelous because I think it was uttered with all the good intentions. Clearly, intent is a prime element of the crime.
SamJackson
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Sorry it was over your head and you missed the point. I was talking this entire time about Senior Life, Ron and Dale Powell, and their affiliation with Lincoln Heritage for phone sales. I don't know YOU and said nothing about YOU. The character, or lack thereof, that I mentioned was only about them.
Furthermore, I was not a "FAILURE" with Senior Life. On the contrary, I made very many sales in the time I was there. Closing ratio was very high and I was happy with the results. It was the broken promises, lack of support, and failure to follow through from the organization that caused my separation from them and re-entry into the real world of insurance.
They want you to sever all ties with any other company in order to work with them. That, alone, is cause for agents to run the other direction.
But again, nothing toward you - don't know anything about you. I was responding to the thread about Senior Life.
Sorry it was over your head and you missed the point. I was talking this entire time about Senior Life, Ron and Dale Powell, and their affiliation with Lincoln Heritage for phone sales. I don't know YOU and said nothing about YOU. The character, or lack thereof, that I mentioned was only about them.
Furthermore, I was not a "FAILURE" with Senior Life. On the contrary, I made very many sales in the time I was there. Closing ratio was very high and I was happy with the results. It was the broken promises, lack of support, and failure to follow through from the organization that caused my separation from them and re-entry into the real world of insurance.
They want you to sever all ties with any other company in order to work with them. That, alone, is cause for agents to run the other direction.
But again, nothing toward you - don't know anything about you. I was responding to the thread about Senior Life.
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Apology accepted...thank-you. When you can get FRESH EXCLUSIVE FE leads for around $20-$25 (and these leads cost $28-$40 to generate because they are very directly worded...not the $225 Soc. Sec. benefit wording, but wording talking about the high cost of funerals, send this card in to get a whole life ins. policy, etc.)...well they don't want you to get these leads and write them with another Co. that's giving you a higher comm.
Other Co.'s may offer higher comm. but when you pay $28-$40 per lead your actual comm. can be the equivalent of a lesser comm. with $20-$25 lead cost. Don't believe me....go drop 10,000 or more pieces of these very directly worded FE pieces so you can feel the pain of the lead costs. Or....drop 500,000-1,000,000 pieces in several states so you can see the amount of $$ tied up (and lost) on generating these FE leads.
Me personally, I don't tie any $$ up in lead generation. All I do is buy leads that are FRESH and EXCLUSIVE at a BARGAIN. Crunch the numbers with various contract levels and lead costs so you can see this better for yourself.
Any successful agent (no matter what line of ins. they sell) knows plenty of FRESH EXCLUSIVE leads is the ticket to success...as long as you have a PROVEN system to work all these leads.
If you were that successful why did you need a lot of support and hand holding? That's for the brand new agents to the system, until they can get up and running at full throttle. If you were as successful as you claim, NO upline would terminate your contract. You must be leaving some other pertinent info out of this picture.
That's all I want to say about this issue. Otherwise we go back and forth with a "he said/she said" mentality.
Good luck with your new endeavors!
Apology accepted...thank-you. When you can get FRESH EXCLUSIVE FE leads for around $20-$25 (and these leads cost $28-$40 to generate because they are very directly worded...not the $225 Soc. Sec. benefit wording, but wording talking about the high cost of funerals, send this card in to get a whole life ins. policy, etc.)...well they don't want you to get these leads and write them with another Co. that's giving you a higher comm.
Other Co.'s may offer higher comm. but when you pay $28-$40 per lead your actual comm. can be the equivalent of a lesser comm. with $20-$25 lead cost. Don't believe me....go drop 10,000 or more pieces of these very directly worded FE pieces so you can feel the pain of the lead costs. Or....drop 500,000-1,000,000 pieces in several states so you can see the amount of $$ tied up (and lost) on generating these FE leads.
Me personally, I don't tie any $$ up in lead generation. All I do is buy leads that are FRESH and EXCLUSIVE at a BARGAIN. Crunch the numbers with various contract levels and lead costs so you can see this better for yourself.
Any successful agent (no matter what line of ins. they sell) knows plenty of FRESH EXCLUSIVE leads is the ticket to success...as long as you have a PROVEN system to work all these leads.
If you were that successful why did you need a lot of support and hand holding? That's for the brand new agents to the system, until they can get up and running at full throttle. If you were as successful as you claim, NO upline would terminate your contract. You must be leaving some other pertinent info out of this picture.
That's all I want to say about this issue. Otherwise we go back and forth with a "he said/she said" mentality.
Good luck with your new endeavors!
lavvygirl
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When someone can tell me about a phone sales program ring me up or email me and a good lead program. I am tired of sukkie leads i could of worked for the powell group but i declined
I want to know something about it my email is [email protected]
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When someone can tell me about a phone sales program ring me up or email me and a good lead program. I am tired of sukkie leads i could of worked for the powell group but i declined
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Yep. Watch the video here about final expense by phone.
Yep. Watch the video here about final expense by phone.
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I'll tell ya what. You post or send me a private message with your real name and or your agent number and I will find out exactly how much business you wrote and the persistency on it. I am so tired of people who can not do simple sales and try to make every excuse in the world on why they were not successful at any one particular company. I will tell you liike anyone that is successful would "look in the mirror if you want to see the problem and stop blaming it on 2 individuals who came from nothing but had a vision and were determined to succeed."
Furthermore Ron and Dale Powell are two of the most upstanding honest individuals I have ever met. They tell everyone up front what it takes to be successful with Senior Life and or Lincoln Heritage. If you can't do it then that's your problem because I have been in the business for 10 years with them and I live comfortably and pay all of my bills. The ones who make the money are the ones who want to make money. They don't sit around and make excuses on why they are having a bad week, they get motivated and do something about it.
If you know so much about them I guess you know Ron was paralyzed from the waist down on July 3rd, 2009 from an accident. I suppose you would like to bash him for not being able to walk also. Nah, better not do that because the doctors did tell him he had a 10% chance of walking again and he has more drive and determination in his pinky finger than most on this board have in their whole body. I will go ahead and predict he will walk again because he believes in himself. A 10% chance to him means he has a CHANCE!
Man, just get a grip and if you don't have anything nice to say then just keep it shut because I can prove 95% of the B.S. that people say about the Powell's totally wrong. It's called disgruntled employee syndrome and sir you are a prime candidate for it.
I did not get to where I am by whining or bashing someone that I worked for on a message board that is for sure. Suck it up and go to work and learn to sell. The leads don't sell themselves and if they did I would have retired at 30 years old.
I'll tell ya what. You post or send me a private message with your real name and or your agent number and I will find out exactly how much business you wrote and the persistency on it. I am so tired of people who can not do simple sales and try to make every excuse in the world on why they were not successful at any one particular company. I will tell you liike anyone that is successful would "look in the mirror if you want to see the problem and stop blaming it on 2 individuals who came from nothing but had a vision and were determined to succeed."
Furthermore Ron and Dale Powell are two of the most upstanding honest individuals I have ever met. They tell everyone up front what it takes to be successful with Senior Life and or Lincoln Heritage. If you can't do it then that's your problem because I have been in the business for 10 years with them and I live comfortably and pay all of my bills. The ones who make the money are the ones who want to make money. They don't sit around and make excuses on why they are having a bad week, they get motivated and do something about it.
If you know so much about them I guess you know Ron was paralyzed from the waist down on July 3rd, 2009 from an accident. I suppose you would like to bash him for not being able to walk also. Nah, better not do that because the doctors did tell him he had a 10% chance of walking again and he has more drive and determination in his pinky finger than most on this board have in their whole body. I will go ahead and predict he will walk again because he believes in himself. A 10% chance to him means he has a CHANCE!
Man, just get a grip and if you don't have anything nice to say then just keep it shut because I can prove 95% of the B.S. that people say about the Powell's totally wrong. It's called disgruntled employee syndrome and sir you are a prime candidate for it.
I did not get to where I am by whining or bashing someone that I worked for on a message board that is for sure. Suck it up and go to work and learn to sell. The leads don't sell themselves and if they did I would have retired at 30 years old.
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Thank you for coming to the defense of your family, Mrs. Powell (a/k/a Ma Powell). As the cliche goes: "Blood is thicker than water."
Thank you for coming to the defense of your family, Mrs. Powell (a/k/a Ma Powell). As the cliche goes: "Blood is thicker than water."
Once again not very smart. Mrs Powell's name is Tammy. My name is Matt Davis. I can give you my phone number and address also if you would like since you are so smart. I think then you would realize that I am not a "Powell" as you say. LOL!! Thanks for playing the "everyone on here thinks they know the facts game" though. You just made my point above that much more clear about bashing people you have no idea about and 99% of the time you have no idea what you are talking about period. Throw something else out here and lets clear those baseless facts up also. Once again Ron is in rehab and I expect Tammy is there with him also along with his children. Have a heart and use that brain God gave you and read! PS-This is truly Matt Davis. Just wanted to say that twice for some who only read what they want on here.
Foresters Life will start offering sales over the phone Feb 1st 2010. You can take a voice signature over the phone.
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