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[Baseball7]

Don't even go there Greg.Rgi is second to none on combining data with direct mail. I believe they were actually a data company to start with .

They are all using the same data lists but it's kind of amusing that you glorify a mail house.

 

[BibH]

They are all using the same data lists but it's kind of amusing that you glorify a mail house.

Do you know of any other mail house that will mail ages 55-79 fixed cost lead for $31? I think yig does a fixed cost lead but its ages 50-83 i believe.But i've heard from a ton of people they resell leads.Need a lead does a $32 bs walmart lead ages 50-85. Yes all co's have the same data but its how RGI uses that data to get responses which is different . No question they retarget past responders and serial mailers . Who do you or your agents uses for fixed cost? Does IFG have their own fixed cost program or use an outside vendor?

 

[Baseball7]

I'm not ifg I'm not sure why you ask that.

 

[noah]

Talked to their sales rep...
He says they only mail 1 household at a time.
They do not mail the hard copies....I drilled down on why they don't and he couldn't provide a valid reason.
I don't see how they can make and money when cost is around $36 a thousand.
I asked if they resell the leads and he said absolutely not.
What's your take ?

Thats not a special deal with Todd . The 20% off code is on here as RGI advertised it on here . I opened an account today and used it playing around with it . It's $380 plus $14 administrative fee on the cheap tear off card . The better cards are $20 more per 1000. If you notice only 1 of the cards says 2021 on it . I'd 100% used that because the other cards have no dates and they can resell. Crm is definitely the most sophisticated I've seen. Understand there running 0-$60 or $70k i believe so there counts much higher .But again you can't use colored cards and no cards mailed back to you.I'm hearing about response problems all over the country . Mass saturation and many people filling stuff out online now.

I know it's not exclusive to Todd LOL the filter are used on income is 0 to 40 K, and ages 62 to 78, the identical filters I used with Chris at LC.

What's the big deal with colored cards?
What's the problem that you see with not getting the original cards mailed back to you?

 

[Baseball7]

Because they're terrified of being replaced, they're terrified of someone else being in the home except they refuse to realize people will always be in the home behind them.

 

[BibH]

I know it's not exclusive to Todd LOL the filter are used on income is 0 to 40 K, and ages 62 to 78, the identical filters I used with Chris at LC.

What's the big deal with colored cards?
What's the problem that you see with not getting the original cards mailed back to you?

It's just a preference to have the colored card in hand as i door knock a lot if i had a choice . When doing fixed cost leads its not an option . Time is our most valued asset in this business . If i wanted to work aged resold leads i can get them for $3 or less . Yes i know many other people are getting in the house and some will be replaced . It's irrelevant wether you sell the cheapest or not. It's the people we deal with . So Baseball if your not with IFG your obviously using RGI for fixed cost leads .

 

[noah]

It's just a preference to have the colored card in hand as i door knock a lot if i had a choice . When doing fixed cost leads its not an option . Time is our most valued asset in this business . If i wanted to work aged resold leads i can get them for $3 or less . Yes i know many other people are getting in the house and some will be replaced . It's irrelevant wether you sell the cheapest or not. It's the people we deal with . So Baseball if your not with IFG your obviously using RGI for fixed cost leads .

What's the problem that you see with not getting the original cards mailed back to you?

At you saying these leads are being resold?

 

[BibH]

What's the problem that you see with not getting the original cards mailed back to you?

At you saying these leads are being resold?

No I'm not saying its getting resold .But yes I'd say a lot of the memorial guide or walmart leads were you don't get the card back are resold leads as there's no line were they put their age in or a date like "2021" benefits . I'd never run either of those leads unless i got the physcial card back . Lead concepts says that returns better when they don't have to put their age in. I think thats bs

 

[noah]

No I'm not saying its getting resold .But yes I'd say a lot of the memorial guide or walmart leads were you don't get the card back are resold leads as there's no line were they put their age in or a date like "2021" benefits . I'd never run either of those leads unless i got the physcial card back . Lead concepts says that returns better when they don't have to put their age in. I think thats bs

An agent buddy uses the Walmart card that says life insurance and swears by it. He doesn't like the card saying anything about government or social security.
He deals with Lead Concepts.
I've been running the E -64s with Chris at LC.
Can't figure how RGI is getting so much more data ?

 

[Baseball7]

So Baseball if your not with IFG your obviously using RGI for fixed cost leads .

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