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Unfortunate that nobody told you, but this is an "eat-what-you-kill" business. Obviously from your posts, you are a "victim" hell-bent on blaming someone else. Move on man, get a "job". It ain't for you.
Ninety-Two Percent of All Agents Fail - Why?
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Unfortunate that nobody told you, but this is an "eat-what-you-kill" business. Obviously from your posts, you are a "victim" hell-bent on blaming someone else. Move on man, get a "job". It ain't for you.
Glad2bHere
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Sorry, V-A, but I won't let that one slide.
I have followed every direction I've been given, been where I was suppose to be and doing what I was told to do. How come the guy I saw was getting worked with and I'm sitting on the outside looking in? I have been asking my mentor for help learning the products and we agreed to go over one product a day. Never Happened. It took two weeks to discover that GOOGLE CHROME was incompatible with the NYL system and why my screens were so hosed-up time and again. I ask the Marketing person for information about what to use and was blown-off ("I need more information".) . In short, if anything could have possibly gone wrong with my process of coming on-board with NYL and integrating into the culture it did and I would really, really like to know why things worked out the way that they did.
Best Wishes,
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Not quite, M&M. My expectation was that people meant what they said and would do as they said. I'm prety much hell-and-gone from "victim" material. When someone says they are going to do something, I take them at their word.
If you would like to categorize me as one sort of "failure" compared to another thats fine. But don't expect me to quietly accept that things have not connected because there is something innately arcane about the Insurance Business, that I was not well-motivated or have an aversion to hard work. I have tracked on the various "misconnections" over the last three weeks and they are not figments of my imagination, nor has anyone explained to me why so many mess-ups could have occurred so regularly and consistently.
Inquiring people would like to know.
Best Wishes,
Bruce
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That's BS brother.
Instead of accepting the importance of working with your warm market (essential for success - and you've posted that they told you), you're worried about what browser is compatible with their software?
Move on man. Life is too short to be miserable. You're done.
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Sorry, V-A, but I won't let that one slide.
I have followed every direction I've been given, been where I was suppose to be and doing what I was told to do.
That is a lie. You were told to produce a Project 200. Instead, you are on here debating if you should give it or not.
Your career is stuck in neutral right now and everyone is passing you by. I am serious, turn in the Project 200 and get with the program or get out. It is just a matter of time until the manager tells you to stop showing up. Your negativity is going to show, and he won't want you poisoning his new recruits.
Forget all the BS, give your Project 200 and start saying "Yes sir, how high sir? Thank you sir, may I have another!" That, or go out and try it on your own as an independent.
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I've been the one lately on this forum who says the companies are bad or the shop is bad... it's not me, no, can't be me!! Well, bruce, everyone here tells me it is me. I can tell you for sure, it is me. The companies are not all bad. Now, did they lie to me?? Yesssss. Probably lied to you as well. Mine were not NYL experiences.... well, I interviewed there once, they siad they wanted somebody more successful than me, I was doing deliveries at the time, they said they did not hire truck drivers. Oh well. The point is, yes they promise the moon, yes, they do not deliver. Become indy and then you sink or swim on your own, then you have nobody to blame but yourself. Or, maybe find something else. It's up to you. My initial impression overall of NYL is that they are fairly good. Pretty darn good, as a matter of fact.
Glad2bHere
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mmmmmm....I think I am beginning to see a pattern.
The thread was originally about why 90% of agents fail, but thats not whats really coming across. If I am reading this right apparently the fore-gone conclusion is that agents fail because they can't cut the program. What seems to be missing is that noone is identifying exactly what the "program" is.
I was told to turn-in my P200 and I did---- just like I did everything else I was told to do.
I believe I have a right to expect that the Company personnel will likewise deliver on what they say they will do but its not happening and has not happened since Day One. I am pushing back and want to know why this is happening as I think it goes a long way towards explaining that dismal success rate that started this thread.
I would now like to "push-back" on folks here and ask if anyone can answer this question without falling back on cliche's (IE."They don't work hard enough."). By my count the Company has dropped the "support ball" about 12 times in three weeks and I would like to know why.
Best Wishes,
The thread was originally about why 90% of agents fail, but thats not whats really coming across. If I am reading this right apparently the fore-gone conclusion is that agents fail because they can't cut the program. What seems to be missing is that noone is identifying exactly what the "program" is.
I was told to turn-in my P200 and I did---- just like I did everything else I was told to do.
I believe I have a right to expect that the Company personnel will likewise deliver on what they say they will do but its not happening and has not happened since Day One. I am pushing back and want to know why this is happening as I think it goes a long way towards explaining that dismal success rate that started this thread.
I would now like to "push-back" on folks here and ask if anyone can answer this question without falling back on cliche's (IE."They don't work hard enough."). By my count the Company has dropped the "support ball" about 12 times in three weeks and I would like to know why.
Best Wishes,
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That's because there is no "there, there". Life is just an illusion. I stole one phrase from a florida band called, "AXE", and another phrase from Bill Clinton.
The problem is thus, or this: The thing is theater, it's all show. Sometimes, the play at the theater ends up with the prince charming kissing the fair maiden, not the Iron Maiden, sometimes the thing ends in mass murder.
Believe it or not, the manager's responsibility really kind of ends when he hands you that project 200. Then, you fill it out, you get a few appointments. Sometimes the manager goes out on a few, sometimes the sale is made. Sometimes it all works out, sometimes it does not. But he did his show , or his part in the play, by handing you the project 200. He may be done acting at that point. Then, he may not be as well. All the world is indeed a stage, and we are merely players.
The problem is thus, or this: The thing is theater, it's all show. Sometimes, the play at the theater ends up with the prince charming kissing the fair maiden, not the Iron Maiden, sometimes the thing ends in mass murder.
Believe it or not, the manager's responsibility really kind of ends when he hands you that project 200. Then, you fill it out, you get a few appointments. Sometimes the manager goes out on a few, sometimes the sale is made. Sometimes it all works out, sometimes it does not. But he did his show , or his part in the play, by handing you the project 200. He may be done acting at that point. Then, he may not be as well. All the world is indeed a stage, and we are merely players.
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Let me try once more partner (last time!). Here's what the program is: having a large reservoir of contacts that will see you. Not the brochures, or what browser is compatible with their software.
I'd like to bang Rihanna, but it hasn't happened, and probably won't. That's life man, get OVER it.
What track record of success can you show that would give you any kind of credibility to "push back"? Get real man.
Your parents did a miserable job preparing you for life. People drop the ball because they are human. Successful people understand and accept that, and see it as another hurdle to conquer.
My final post on the topic. Good luck.
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BTW, I tried to read all 30+ pages of this thread and did not get through all of them, but I don't think the 92% was ever proven, and, as a matter of fact, early on in this thread people are kind of making fun of the original poster due to this claim. It is a fact we have a high amount of turnover with new agents, yes, it is a fact. Maybe not quite 92%.
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Jacques Werth is a legendary sales expert who's book "High Probability Selling" has sold millions of copies. I doubt that he cares whether nitwits on this forum are making fun of him.
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