Pelosi Wants Government Run Plans

[Winter_123]

Actually, the way my demented mind works, I think Pelosi's proposal will be helpful because it will give the opponents a chance to run some really scary ads about government run plans and will help to rally the opposition bigtime. MIght as well get on with it and it makes for a better battle than if she were proposing a government run plan but pretending that it was not government run.

Let the games begin.


House Health Plan to Include Government-Run Option (Update1) - Bloomberg.com

 

[HealthGuy]

Because she is soooo loved by the American public, I hope Princess Pelosi leads the charge for Gov't run healthcare.

 

[stuy119]

The government has close to a $2,000,000,000,000 deficit, and it's growing every year.

Payments to Medicaid/Medicare doctors are 6+ months behind.

Government plans that require participation will be adding in the most unhealthy people, and those most likely to abuse care and WON'T be able to keep premiums low (for more than a year or two).

Unemployment is at 8%+, and instituting government-run healthcare would put another few million people out of work.


What about these scenarios make government-run healthcare appealing to any politician or citizen?

 

[Winter_123]

The government has close to a $2,000,000,000,000 deficit, and it's growing every year.

Payments to Medicaid/Medicare doctors are 6+ months behind.

Government plans that require participation will be adding in the most unhealthy people, and those most likely to abuse care and WON'T be able to keep premiums low (for more than a year or two).

Unemployment is at 8%+, and instituting government-run healthcare would put another few million people out of work.


What about these scenarios make government-run healthcare appealing to any politician or citizen?

Yep. The normal mind would think that a few trillion in deficits would kaibosh the whole thing. However the libs are spinning it differently by saying that we have given billions to wall street and automakers so you have to give the people something. I dont agree with that reasoning because we all go down in the Titanic together but have to agree that they are going to get some traction with that argument. Pelosi will be right at the front of the pack with that argument. She couldnt tell ya the difference between a debit and a credit so the dollars are going to phase her.

 

[chp]

What about these scenarios make government-run healthcare appealing to any politician or citizen?

The clients that I meet every day who cannot qualify for an individual policy here in SC due to medical conditions, and the high risk pool is so expensive it is a joke. These are the people that get the most angry, voice their opinion to their politicians, and vote.

 

[txbanker]

I know one thing, if I was a politician and I ran against Pelosi and lost.................I would have a few serious problems.

How about Barney Frank, imagine losing to that guy in anything??

I say bring it Pelosi, it will only benefit all of us that oppose it. A govt ran program will be the worst idea ever.

 

[djs]

I know one thing, if I was a politician and I ran against Pelosi and lost.................I would have a few serious problems.

You have to realize Pelosi represents San Francisco. 'nuff said. She can actually be seen as a moderate there.

 

[Mark from WI]

Actually, the way my demented mind works, I think Pelosi's proposal will be helpful because it will give the opponents a chance to run some really scary ads about government run plans and will help to rally the opposition bigtime. MIght as well get on with it and it makes for a better battle than if she were proposing a government run plan but pretending that it was not government run.
Let the games begin.
House Health Plan to Include Government-Run Option (Update1) - Bloomberg.com

This is a good point. It will be very interesting to see how this shakes out. Insurance companies are demonized because that's who people pay, and that is who pays (or doesn't pay) claims. Yet, the problem of the runaway train of health care costs is far more complex than this. It involves obesity, drug costs, technology, entitlement, lack of the right physician incentives, inefficiencies, lack of open/transparent competition for medical services, etc. Reorganizing the payers (especially in a way that involves the hyper-INefficient government) or mandating/guaranteeing coverage (which raises prices drastically for healthy people and rewards people whose lifestyles in some cases may have caused their need for medical costs to the rest of us) does not solve or even address the fundamental underlying problems.
Attack the insurance companies! is a popular but ignorant battle cry that misses the point by a mile.

 

[Winter_123]

I know one thing, if I was a politician and I ran against Pelosi and lost.................I would have a few serious problems.

The last person to run against Pelosi and lose was Cindy Sheehan. Does she have problems. You decide.

Pelosi defeats Cindy Sheehan to win 12th term

 

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