Republicans Take Over House, Now What?

[Post Quartermaster]

Winter, you keep saying the Repub's need a plan. It would certainly help, but Obama never had a plan.

Just some catchy slogans.

That statement is naive at best.....plain stupid at worst.......

Did you not take the time to read Obama's HCR postion statements on his election website?



Hell, I wonder if anyone here even remembers McCain's HCR plan? It was pretty much "kill the group market and make it all individual plans with some hdhp provisions and tax tweaks"........

 

[ksigmtsu]

The Republican plan now is to say how they're not responsible for anything because they only control 1 house of congress and the supreme court is barely able to do anything even though they have it, so everything that happens is done by the president and they couldn't do anything about it for the next 2 years.

 

[Suis]

From what I understand, the insurance carriers put a lot of money into the GOP campaigns this time and they must expect something! They do not like the profit margins imposed on them for one. They DO like the idea of everyone having health care. They don't want to upset the apple cart with agents. So, we shall see what the carriers were promised and if it can be delivered.
Sue
(hopeful for the new change in course!

 

[houcoogster]

Republicans will mangle Obamacare through the purse strings.

I dont see a single post here talking about hopes or plans for republicans to implement a plan to reduce premiums, increase coverage, and control costs other than to make obamacare all go away. Therein lies the danger and the future. It will be sweet for a while watching Obamacare take a beating but come 2012 we will be facing Hillary.

The republicans completely blew round one. They focused totally on watching Olympia Snowe and demonizing her for speaking with Obama and she eventually voted against Obamacare. Otherwise they had no plan and the public saw that. Next the idiots let Obama and Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi draw them into the lobster trap so that they could use reconciliation. Probably the dumbest frigging move I have seen the republicans make in my lifetime but they just walked right into it as though they had a plan and a brain to go with it. They did this, by the way, at a time when Obamacare could not muster the votes and was completely dead in the water, but their zeal to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory was unstoppable. Tis the nature of being an *** I guess.

Having said that, this weeks circumstances create new opportunities to not be stupid. Savor the idea of butchering Obamacare because it needs to be butchered but keep in mind that the public hates republicans with a passion- they just hated them a little less than democrats this week. Come next election if there is not a credible health reform plan on the table it is republicans who will be rightfully blamed. Quite a few people here are on the "lets just make it all go away so our commissions will be back to where they were" model. Fine, but Congress has a greater responsibility.

I am not going to go through it all again, but yes, I do have a plan beyond just saying get a plan and bitching about the pubs. Briefly, I support a modified Washington State quasi-guaranteed issue, with state subsidy where the market does not work model and with a state pool in the background. Yeh, I know the problems but I also know the opportunities that go with it. My view is that the pubs need a plan however imperfect to fend off single payer. The republicans in Congress don't believe that- so far anyway- and neither do most of the "lets make it all go away" folks here. But that is my view. Repubs have another chance. It is a chance to get it right or to be stupid all over again. We shall see.

GET A PLAN - OPPOSING OBAMACARE IS NOT A PLAN. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, HILLARY DOES. YOU DON'T LIKE MY PLAN? FINE, WHAT'S YOURS OTHER THAN MAKING IT ALL GO AWAY?

Mindless Dribble

 

[Winter_123]

Mindless Dribble

I see. Another member of the "just tell me if my commission is going to be cut" crowd.

 

[bill3173]

That statement is naive at best.....plain stupid at worst.......

You may want to watch who you call stupid. I've seen Somarco wrestle grizzly bears just for fun, and he was a little tired.

 

[aheff]

houcoogster- Well, your post certainly added to the discussion. Thanks!
Winter- I'm just more jaded than you are, and feel that the ONLY goal that these politicians have are to win elections and power grab. Your points are very well taken, that in order to succeed in 2012, they have to have a plan, and not merely oppose.

 

[Winter_123]

houcoogster- Well, your post certainly added to the discussion. Thanks!
Winter- I'm just more jaded than you are, and feel that the ONLY goal that these politicians have are to win elections and power grab. Your points are very well taken, that in order to succeed in 2012, they have to have a plan, and not merely oppose.

I am jaded but my needle is not stuck on any point right at this time. There are boundless opportunities for the pubs to do smart things. When they do stupid things my needle goes over into the stupid range and when and if they do smart things, the needle can easily move right over there.

In general, it is not good to have Pelosi, Obama, and Reid outsmart you. If they want to remedy that then go right ahead by all means. If not, then the needle will be where it will be.

 

[somarco]

That statement is naive at best.....plain stupid at worst.......

Naive is anyone who voted for this guy. Obviously anyone with a slick pitch can become president, even if they are totally unqualified and the job is way beyond their pay grade.

You may not have liked the other choice, but at least McCain had leadership experience.

Obama was a college professor. Give me a break.

This job has highlighted his total incompetence, including his cabinet picks and Supreme Court nominee's.

No substance whatsoever.

Ask those who voted for him, if you can still find anyone who is willing to admit it, and ask them why they cast their vote for him.

I dare you to find anyone who can name anything beyond his catchy slogans and mindless campaign promises.

Apparently you are not yet ready to admit to buyers remorse.

 

[Winter_123]

Obama was a college professor. Give me a break.

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Even that little factoid aspect of his background gets elevated beyond reality.

Obama never held the rank of professor, nor did he ever teach full time. He was a part-time instructor at the law school. Some years he taught only one course.

He did far, far more teaching and traiing at Acorn than he did at the law school during those years.

The law firm where he did his internship was, as we know, where Michelle worked. Another person who worked there was Bernadette Dorn, Bill Ayer's wife. Obama says of course he only knew Ayers as someone from the neighborhood. Bernadette was/is at the law firm but works as a researcher/lobbyist type. She lost her law license after being convicted of terrorism.

Such is Obama's legal circle.