Wow Ben Bowman Was Going to Leave 360 and Go to Efes?

[JimmyUt]

but i hate reading

Apparently

 

[bboman23]

Oh I am not trying to have drama with you! If anything, I am THANKFUL! Everything happens for a reason.

And I am glad you reached out to Doug. My comment about Doug was because you started trying to poach his too, and I hate to see that happen to a good dude.

 

[VolAgent]

I would have no problems with letting an agent go if he requested it for whatever reason. The problem would occur when another manager with the same organization actively recruited agents away from me. Especially if he met those agents through his relationship with me. And, if I were the IMO, while I would not prevent an agent from switching uplines, but I would tell the manager to cease actively recruiting other managers downline. .

Stop reading my mind, its scary.

Yes, I agree with everything you just said. I want to leave my comments more open as I am not privy to exactly what happened, and quite frankly I really don't what to know what happened.

 

[Todd King]

Seems to me that Spur has now been called out for 2 separate issues when it comes to scruples. That in itself says something. Both times he has defended himself saying that it didn't happen that way. Of course he would say that whether these things were true or not.

I can say this for myself though. If the managers at 360 respected each other, Ben would have been involved about 3 seconds after said agent asked for contracts through Spur. Seems it didn't happen that way though. So, whether Spur reached out to the agent of the agent reached out to Spur, the end result should have been the same. Ben should have been involved.

So, in my opinion here...at the very least, Spur lacks integrity.

 

[360]

I would have no problems with letting an agent go if he requested it for whatever reason. The problem would occur when another manager with the same organization actively recruited agents away from me. Especially if he met those agents through his relationship with me. And, if I were the IMO, while I would not prevent an agent from switching uplines, but I would tell the manager to cease actively recruiting other managers downline. .

Well said Louis.

 

[NuUzr]

Reading this thread can be alarming..

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Well said Louis.

Really? That's how this would work? How about telling the underhanded, borderline crook(agent) to get out of dodge?

 

[360]

Really? That's how this would work? How about telling the underhanded, borderline crook(agent) to get out of dodge?

Yes, I think what Louis said was pretty much on the money. The main difference between how I might think it should be handled and how some others might view it is that if what you do is focused on the writing agent and what they want, then on some things like these issues you have to give that considerable weight. Read his thread again and tell me what about it you don't agree with.

 

[WinoBlues]

Reading this thread can be alarming..

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Really? That's how this would work? How about telling the underhanded, borderline crook(agent) to get out of dodge?

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Yes, I think what Louis said was pretty much on the money. The main difference between how I might think it should be handled and how some others might view it is that if what you do is focused on the writing agent and what they want, then on some things like these issues you have to give that considerable weight. Read his thread again and tell me what about it you don't agree with.

I thin he is talking about the managers. at the end of the day, this is business.

 

[FinalExpenseDojo.com]

They are leaving for the resources your new IMO provides.

You say that like it's a slap in the face.............. Ben is very proud of what the EFES partnership has put together for our group. Innovation breeds success.

A wise man once said, "60% of Fortune 500 companies from 1970 are no longer around. There's always someone who goes to sleep thinking about kicking your *** no matter how big you are."

 

[NuUzr]

I like watching Mafia documentaries.. FE Five Families

EFES
360
Fex Contracting
Todd King Marketing
Senior Services of Utah

Seriosuly - reading through other threads about these same companies screwing over each other is crazy.. Mob mentality. Through all of this I hope the clients are being taken care of. I don't think so.