60,000 Annual Premium in one month

[Rirwin]

You are full of it. FEX agents definitely do not churn. They will replace high priced stuff that YOU sold though so That can see your disdain for them.

First I'm hiding behind a screen name and now you know what products/companies I sell? Make up your mind...

By the way you probably don't know about the churning many agents and leaders in your organization does. It's very apparent that what happened with Travis you are left in the dark on some things.

 

[Thedude]

Newby at least read the posts before commenting. I never said he didn't write 300k.

 

[rousemark]

I think it's sad when you see a true "Producer" immediately EARN the reputation of being a BS Recruiter. Don't these guys realize that most people aren't just going to believe their exaggerated and "FALSE" statements?

Back to the grind!

Grind? Thought it was easy???

 

[rousemark]

Newby at least read the posts before commenting. I never said he didn't write 300k.

If I understand what you have been saying, it is simply that MOST people would not find it "easy" to write $300K....... If that be the case, I fully agree because if it were easy, more people would be doing it.

 

[Todd King]

Can't be done! The forum already ruled on it and they said "no". Lol

To bring you up to date:
1. The Earth is flat
2. 45% commission with free leads is a much better deal than 120% with no free leads
3. No one can sell $200,000 let alone $300,000 with 20 leads per week.
4. You won't see the real producers at company conventions because...well just because.
5. Selling $300,000 per year is easy. (I'm told Jose tossed this one out there.) come on Jose! Just kick em in the nuts next time. You're upsetting the trolls.

I think you are missing the whole point that is trying to be made. Here it is, simple and easy. No one is disagreeing that Jose wrote $300K on 20 leads a week. We believe that. However, Jose has now made a statement about how easy it is to do that and has indicated that he can teach anyone to do that and it will be easy for them as well.

You know as well as anyone here that writing $300K in a year isn't easy for anyone. It may be simple, but it ain't easy. You also know that you can show many agents how to do this step by step and they still won't be able to do it. Once again, simple but not easy.

Furthermore, Jose is pretty much indicating that he can teach anyone to do this....you know that is just not true either. Jose is putting it out there, but he has yet to get one agent producing $300K per year. Still though, he keeps talking like he's got all this experience in training agents when he actually doesn't. These things are what he is being called out on.

 

[Jose Arteaga]

Jose wrote $300K on 20 leads a week. We believe that. However, Jose has now made a statement about how easy it is to do that and has indicated that he can teach anyone to do that and it will be easy for them as well.

Todd, first of all good morning. Just want to clear the air.
I do think writing 300,000 on 20 leads a week is easy. but this is my opinion I say that because it's easy for me. what it takes to do that, I do not consider hard work.
That said. you agree that I know exactly what it takes to do it.

So by my measurement I believe it is easy for someone to learn how to do it or come close. What is much harder for most is the dedication it takes. Most agents have a good week or two and then they let off the pedal the next week or they take an extra day off. That doesn't work.

But when the agent is in the zone he has a great week no reason why he can't repeat it. that means he could sell, he just lacks the dedication and what it really takes to keep the foot on the pedal.

I'm not doing anything special that a lot of Agents can't already do what is special is my dedication to get it done

To sit there for 2 hours setting appointments during the week to make the days when you're in the field count and be out there from 9 to 9 sometimes.

but even with all that being able to work only 3 days a week most of the time and have the weekends off I don't consider that hard work I guess my bar is very high for what I consider to be hard work.

Roofing in Arizona in the summer that's hard work laying bricks and digging ditches that's hard work. what do we do?drive around all day and meet with people the hardest part of this job or that takes a little time that may be unpleasant is setting the appointments during the week... that and finding a place to pee lol

Anyhow if someone's going to learn someone Style and the dedication and what it really takes don't you think their best chance of learning it is from someone that's doing it and walks the walk with them?

Todd we have not had our agency for a year yet so we can't say how many producers are putting up those numbers we've just formed in the last 6 months.

But our guys are hitting 4000 in a week consistently brand-spanking-new after a couple ride-alongs with me Agent went out on his own and wrote over 4,000 his very first week

And experienced agents say that they've made more premium since joining our group then they have on their own for years that's gotta count for something

Anyway I got to get going I've got a day full of appointments have a good day

 

[Newby]

First I'm hiding behind a screen name and now you know what products/companies I sell? Make up your mind...

By the way you probably don't know about the churning many agents and leaders in your organization does. It's very apparent that what happened with Travis you are left in the dark on some things.

I can assume what product you're selling because I'm assuming from your post that you were getting replaced a lot. That's why you are upset and trying to smear your competitors.

If what you are saying is true then you are just as big a scumbag as they would be if you are not reporting them rather than coming onto a forum as an anonymous poster and just toss in your made up garbage out there.

I have personally shut down the careers of several scumbag Agents. I have zero tolerance for any agent pulling scumbag tactics (clean sheeting, rebating, not filling out replacement forms, etc. ) on seniors in my area. When I run across it I make it a huge problem for them. I'm a strong believer that if we agents don't clean up the dirtbags then our entire profession suffers.

If you have real true cases of real agents doing dirt baggery in the field do the right thing. Report it to the state DOI and it never hurts to also report it to the insurance companies involved. I've had success with both.

And I know in years past when this topic has come up there's always the idiots out there that will throw out the classic "Snitches get Stitches" line. That is the battle cry of dirtbags not professionals. Don't be a dirt bag.

 

[Newby]

1 for 5.
Post 76. And if you happen to have the time, post 100.

OK thanks. I think you guys are taking things too literal for an Internet forum.

If Mark Spitz said swimming fast is easy. I can teach anybody how to do it. It would be the same thing.

Mark Spitz knows how to swim fast and he can teach anybody what he does that makes it easy for him. That doesn't mean most people are going to do what it takes and put in all the work to really learn how to swim fast. But it wouldn't be because Mark Spitz everything he knows.

I can see where Jose's comment sounds flippant. And he is an evil "marketer" so Every word out of his mouth has to be trying to trap naïve Agents into his web.

Jose's real crime is that he's really just a happy go lucky guy and is not jaded and tainted like most of us that have spent too much time on forums. He's not thinking of his self is overpromising. He's just throwing out there that he is happy to show others how he does it and he finds it easy.

Give him a couple years of arguing with anonymous trolls and Agents rolling debt up to him And he'll be just as battle scarred and jaded as the rest of us.

 

[Life Hawk]

No dog in this fight... but once again we are eating our own...

I would say that anyone who said selling FE is easy may be using simplified language...

300k of it a year... we all know easy is not the word for that... but rather than shoot lets call a cease fire and watch...

Someone once told me if you shoot for the stars but miss and only hit the moon... not too bad.

 

[CALTCAgent]

Jose can work either spanish or english leads and he is an area that produces both. His area helps him with a unique advantage. Not that he isn't good. Whether he writes all this on 20 leads or not, to me he can't necessarily do the same as easily in another area. Simply my opinion.