Anyone Ever Speak to a Congregation?

[bboman23]

Yeah, it was brought to my attention that these 2 NEW "EFES Regional" guys are giving bad advice and should probably learn the business before they come onto the form spouting away.

That's the problem with making Recruiters out of agents that have only been licensed for a couple of years....

An agent was telling me that it's starting to smell like an NAA hug and tug on our forum of recent! lol

Easy to say that about someone you don't know. Cyberspydy is hands down the smartest person I've ever met in this business. And him and Broker4ever put up the personal production to back it up. Cyberspydy does 24-28k per month on 25 leads per week. Most other places make you buy 50-60 per week to hit those numbers.

 

[Biggin]

You can get a "stfu" with that crap...maybe that's something a Mormon would buy...but a free thinking Christian would see right through that BS.

Made me chuckle out loud.......

 

[Cybrspidey]

Wrote a black pastor and his wife some additional coverage. Delivered his policy today and he asked me to come speak to his church about life insurance. He believes everyone should at least have enough for their final expenses. Said to many times the family had to ask for donations to help with the cost of the funeral. Anybody ever done this?

BillyB, I personally have done this and have had great success with it. What I personally did was treat them to coffee and donuts for breakfast, set appts to see them same day and one-by-one wrote them policies. 100% of every policy I have written from a "church seminar" has stayed on the books.

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Easy to say that about someone you don't know. Cyberspydy is hands down the smartest person I've ever met in this business. And him and Broker4ever put up the personal production to back it up. Cyberspydy does 24-28k per month on 25 leads per week. Most other places make you buy 50-60 per week to hit those numbers.

I appreciate that Ben.

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You can get a "stfu" with that crap...maybe that's something a Mormon would buy...but a free thinking Christian would see right through that BS.

Pretty sure Mormons are free thinking and wouldn't "fall for that crap", though I do feel appealing to someone's biblical/Christian side is not a bad idea.

 

[Thedude]

Being super religious is literally opposite of being "free thinking" regardless of which god you think

 

[Cybrspidey]

Yeah, it was brought to my attention that these 2 NEW "EFES Regional" guys are giving bad advice and should probably learn the business before they come onto the form spouting away.

That's the problem with making Recruiters out of agents that have only been licensed for a couple of years....

An agent was telling me that it's starting to smell like an NAA hug and tug on our forum of recent! lol

Not sure who you are talking about, lol, but all agent's, manager's, and IMO's for that matter, are human. Mistakes happen. However, I can absolutely tell you I despise organizations like NAA, Symmetry, FFL, Equis, etc. who screw agent's to "teach" them the business. So I'm not sure who is recruiting like NAA, but that's no good for sure.

 

[Agentguy5]

Easy to say that about someone you don't know. Cyberspydy is hands down the smartest person I've ever met in this business. And him and Broker4ever put up the personal production to back it up. Cyberspydy does 24-28k per month on 25 leads per week. Most other places make you buy 50-60 per week to hit those numbers.

That's awesome!

The fact is that they have both given some questionable advice while heavily increasing their post count on this forum as of lately.

And yes, I might have been a little bit harsh by posting exactly what I was thinking. Got a little excited that Donnie came on here in the middle of the night and pulled a "Gooner" lol

I have no doubt that both of your guys can and will be very successful recruiters one day

 

[KRobby]

Not sure who you are talking about, lol, but all agent's, manager's, and IMO's for that matter, are human. Mistakes happen. However, I can absolutely tell you I despise organizations like NAA, Symmetry, FFL, Equis, etc. who screw agent's to "teach" them the business. So I'm not sure who is recruiting like NAA, but that's no good for sure.

Here's a gif that comes in handy from time to time.

 

[DHK]

My post was merely an attempt to talk about the more common "religious" objections to purchasing insurance.

What are some of these "objections"?
1) God will take care of my family.

2) God said not to worry about the future. (Consider the lilies verse)

3) The Church will provide.


You would be surprised about what some people - of ALL faiths - may believe about "planning" and/or buying insurance.

Now, you certainly don't have to do it the way I typed it. But finding a way to get people to think that it is OUR responsibility to plan and provide for our families when we are no longer here... would be a good message to get people to think differently than they may have been thinking in the past.

As for my faith (LDS/Mormon), we teach provident living and self-reliance: https://providentliving.lds.org/?lang=eng

If the church as a pamphlet or article about finances, weave your message into it. Our church has this: https://www.lds.org/bc/content/shared/content/english/pdf/language-materials/33293_eng.pdf

You may notice that on page 16, Item #10 talks about insurance: "APPROPRIATELY INVOLVE YOURSELF IN AN INSURANCE PROGRAM: It is most important to have sufficient medical, automobile, and homeowner's insurance and an adequate life insurance program. Costs associated with illness, accident, and death may be so large that uninsured families can be financially burdened for many years."

Now, whether to speak during Sunday services or in a separate workshop setting will be up to you and your pastor. Personally, I would prefer the pastor introduce me with a testimonial of services, then I can speak about promoting a workshop for either later in the day or another day at the church and promote that, so the rest of the service can focus on where it should be - worship.

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I would also focus on financial stewardship and how we may be judged by God as to how well we handled the blessings we received and how we used them. The parable of the 10 talents would fit for that message.

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Besides, wouldn't it be fun to call the congregation a "wicket and slothful servant" if they don't meet with you?

Matthew 25:26-28

26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:

27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.

28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.

 

[Cybrspidey]

Here's a gif that comes in handy from time to time.

I like it! Thanks!

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My post was merely an attempt to talk about the more common "religious" objections to purchasing insurance.

What are some of these "objections"?
1) God will take care of my family.

2) God said not to worry about the future. (Consider the lilies verse)

3) The Church will provide.


You would be surprised about what some people - of ALL faiths - may believe about "planning" and/or buying insurance.

Now, you certainly don't have to do it the way I typed it. But finding a way to get people to think that it is OUR responsibility to plan and provide for our families when we are no longer here... would be a good message to get people to think differently than they may have been thinking in the past.

As for my faith (LDS/Mormon), we teach provident living and self-reliance: https://providentliving.lds.org/?lang=eng

If the church as a pamphlet or article about finances, weave your message into it. Our church has this: https://www.lds.org/bc/content/shared/content/english/pdf/language-materials/33293_eng.pdf

You may notice that on page 16, Item #10 talks about insurance: "APPROPRIATELY INVOLVE YOURSELF IN AN INSURANCE PROGRAM: It is most important to have sufficient medical, automobile, and homeowner's insurance and an adequate life insurance program. Costs associated with illness, accident, and death may be so large that uninsured families can be financially burdened for many years."

Now, whether to speak during Sunday services or in a separate workshop setting will be up to you and your pastor. Personally, I would prefer the pastor introduce me with a testimonial of services, then I can speak about promoting a workshop for either later in the day or another day at the church and promote that, so the rest of the service can focus on where it should be - worship.

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I would also focus on financial stewardship and how we may be judged by God as to how well we handled the blessings we received and how we used them. The parable of the 10 talents would fit for that message.

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Besides, wouldn't it be fun to call the congregation a "wicket and slothful servant" if they don't meet with you?

Matthew 25:26-28

26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:

27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.

28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.

On point! Thanks DHK.

 

[FinalExpenseDojo.com]

I think DHK was trying to throw some humor into his advise. I don't think he expected anyone to bring their Bible & preach a sermon on life insurance. Haha!

But, if you're in front of a church, it's only make sense to tie it in to the service in some way. Know your audience!