Becoming a State Farm Agent

"I am a 25 year old who was proposed an idea from my brother in law who sells insurance. I just moved back home and am planning on taking some prereqs to pursue a Master's in Engineering but in the meantime I need some money.

I was told I can pursue this process of becoming a state farm agent for good fast money. Assuming I get accepted into the agency, I'd go through the 9 month process of learning about the field. This would give me the money I need and I think it could be good to learn what they're teaching (I love learning about everything and have very little knowledge in insurance and sales, so why not). Then when the training is done, my brother in law would be able to work out the one year contract part of the deal as an employee. I would work with him somewhat but he feels able to meet their goals and achieve the bonuses that they offer. Then when the year is over I'd stop working and am told I can sell my agency back to State Farm. Sounded like a great plan, but this forum scared me into not thinking their deal is so easy.


I'm wondering a couple of things:


1. Is their training a worthwhile thing for someone not so sure if they're going into insurance sales for life?

2. Does this whole idea sound possible?
3. During the 1 year as a TICA, is State Farm constantly checking in on me, and if so, is it in person?
4. After the year long contract, is it plausible to get out of the business?
5. Is this crazy?

I know this might not sound right to everybody, but it is giving me a chance to learn and make money, while helping my bro in law continue his insurance pursuits under the State Farm name, and giving State Farm more customers. Just curious. Thanks"

If you're trying to make and save money, this definitely would not be feasible for you. Especially if you're taking classes for a MBA in Engineering and not sure if you want to do this as a career. Trust me when I say this.....DO NOT waste your time and money.

1. State Farm's training is great but if you have no experience in insurance or sales, you're probably choosing the wrong way to go. If you want to learn the ropes, you should go work for an agent before deciding to open your own office. Get a feel for everything and if it's a fit for you.
2. This idea is not feasible at all. Do you have enough money saved up to pay 3 employees, lease an office, buy furniture, lease computers, printers and scanners, buy leads, etc. Plus, you can't just bail after a year and give your brother in law the agency.
3. They check in on you all the time. State Farm has many different corporate drones that come to check on you and tell you how to spend your time and money. You have a lot of goals to hit while being a TICA and these people are, supposedly, there to help you get there.
4. You can get out after a year, but if you'd made it that long and invested that much...why would you? Not to mention, you DO NOT OWN THE BOOK OF BUSINESS. You will have just wasted money and a year of your life.
5. Yes, absolutely bat **** crazy. Run now and don't ever look back.

You won't be earning money. You will be losing money and lots of it, as well as putting yourself in debt for years, and probably develop an ulcer due to all the stress. You will most likely start a scratch agency too, which means you will not have a book of business to make money off of from the start. Trust me man, I've worked for 2 State Farm TICA agents. One was scratch and the other started with a huge book. The scratch agent was a family member, so I know first hand the troubles and stress it brings. Whichever route you choose to go, best of luck to you.
 
Lots of great info on this forum - thanks for all the great posts.
Luckily I found some 3-5 year agents who were willing to share the truth about their situations. I went through the process - just to see how it would play out. The more I learned, the more I felt like I was being duped. I had quite a bit of success in my past career, and I don't mind working hard - but all the variables with pay made me uneasy. I was excited about it when I started, but I lost that feeling - the further along I got in the process, the more uncomfortable I was. I talked to some people that went into this thing pretty blind, and are now regretting it.

Two things that actually made me reconsider this early on were the scorecard bonus and "travel". The scorecard - which might be great, but dam - I felt like I needed to study the thing for a week to figure it out. If it's that hard to figure out, it can't be good - do they really think no one knows that? And travel - as soon as I found out they 1099 you for the trip - why ???? and for like double or triple the cost? Agents being taxed on a $10,000 trip .. Why would I want to pay to go on a trip with other SF people ?
I guess that was the point I realized this might not be for me ..
 
Lots of great info on this forum - thanks for all the great posts.
Luckily I found some 3-5 year agents who were willing to share the truth about their situations. I went through the process - just to see how it would play out. The more I learned, the more I felt like I was being duped. I had quite a bit of success in my past career, and I don't mind working hard - but all the variables with pay made me uneasy. I was excited about it when I started, but I lost that feeling - the further along I got in the process, the more uncomfortable I was. I talked to some people that went into this thing pretty blind, and are now regretting it.

Two things that actually made me reconsider this early on were the scorecard bonus and "travel". The scorecard - which might be great, but dam - I felt like I needed to study the thing for a week to figure it out. If it's that hard to figure out, it can't be good - do they really think no one knows that? And travel - as soon as I found out they 1099 you for the trip - why ???? and for like double or triple the cost? Agents being taxed on a $10,000 trip .. Why would I want to pay to go on a trip with other SF people ?
I guess that was the point I realized this might not be for me ..

Good post! You are one of the smart ones. Any ideas about your future?
 
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And travel - as soon as I found out they 1099 you for the trip - why ???? and for like double or triple the cost? Agents being taxed on a $10,000 trip .. Why would I want to pay to go on a trip with other SF people ?
I guess that was the point I realized this might not be for me ..

Just playing Devils advocate the IRS requires the carrier to 1099 you for the trip in essence it is compensation....I know nothing about them 1099ing you for double or triple the cost.
 
Just playing Devils advocate the IRS requires the carrier to 1099 you for the trip in essence it is compensation....I know nothing about them 1099ing you for double or triple the cost.

I went on many company trips. Usually they are top of the line. You can elect to take the trip or take the cash equivalent. I opted for the trips most of the time there is no meetings to attend.

If you take the cash instead of the trip the cash would not amount to the trip amount. Either way you will still be ahead. I would not turn a company down based on an elective trip. :yes::)
 
Good post! You are one of the smart ones. Any ideas about your future?

Thanks - Not sure yet. I do have a few options in mind, and indy might be one of them.
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Thanks for the posts on the travel/trip. I didn't know that much about it - it does make sense though, thanks for pointing that out.
 
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I know of a young guy that took a State Farm Agency. He lasted less than a year and wound up with some significant debt. They have an extremely high level of expectation and production requirements.
 
So I am preparing my business proposal for becoming a SF agent. I have heard so many bad things on this thread about "The Opportunity" but wonder if my situation is a little different and could be a success. We live in a small county by population, but large by size, only 48,000 residents. There are three SF agents in the county, two fairly large and one very small. All are separated by 10 to 25 miles of freeway travel. I am only interested in taking over the office of my agent, one of the larger two. He is nearing retirement and I have made it very clear to the recruiter and team leader as to my goal. I am very well established in the community. I am young 30s and successful but looking for a career with less physical demands than my current career. Our current agent does financially very well. I have been told SF will not be splitting the market area into two offices, either. With the infamous new contract everyone mentions and a book of business with probably around 3600 auto policies, could a new agent be successful? I currently make around $100K per year. I see this situation as being successful, but want to make sure I am not being too naive about the situation. Comments?
 
So I am preparing my business proposal for becoming a SF agent. I have heard so many bad things on this thread about "The Opportunity" but wonder if my situation is a little different and could be a success. We live in a small county by population, but large by size, only 48,000 residents. There are three SF agents in the county, two fairly large and one very small. All are separated by 10 to 25 miles of freeway travel. I am only interested in taking over the office of my agent, one of the larger two. He is nearing retirement and I have made it very clear to the recruiter and team leader as to my goal. I am very well established in the community. I am young 30s and successful but looking for a career with less physical demands than my current career. Our current agent does financially very well. I have been told SF will not be splitting the market area into two offices, either. With the infamous new contract everyone mentions and a book of business with probably around 3600 auto policies, could a new agent be successful? I currently make around $100K per year. I see this situation as being successful, but want to make sure I am not being too naive about the situation. Comments?

How well the current agent does has no bearing on your situation because it is a different contract. Set down and figure what your costs would be and what your revenue would be. Find 3-4 agents 2-3 years into a similar situation and talk to them.

I would also go here and post the situation and get input. NASFA Membership

My feeling is that you will not make the money you are seeking.

Personally to consider the SF opportunity based upon what I know I would have to lose my mind.
 
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