Cold Doors 2020 - Discussion Thread

Exactly what I think. And I'm pretty sure we're in the majority on this one. In fact, lifehawk and daytimer are first I've ever heard of to purposely look down when asking to come inside. Not surprising that they also suggest the foot shuffle :D:D
Edit: Monkey beat me to the joke!
Anyway....
The Wave:
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I don't do the Combined Shuffle and if somebody tried that at my door...they wouldn't get in.

The Combined Shuffle works if you've done "The Wave" properly.

So, if I just do the shuffle, you're not letting me in. But if I do the wave and the shuffle, then we're soon sitting at you kitchen table, right? ;)

I do use the wave when running FE leads. I use it when I see the shadow behind the peep hole, or the rustling of e blinds or curtains. I've never done the shuffle, but I have no doubt it can be effective. As far as I know none of us here on the forum can claim to trained up a sales force that can hold a candle to what Mr W. Clement Stone developed. He worked the wave and shuffle for a few billion dollars, right?

Also, when I'm cold knocking, I'm not trying to get in right there. I'm not looking for an FE sale. I'm trying to get an appointment, and I prefer if I can get them to come to the office rather than me come to their home. I don't use the wave when cold knocking. I have a different attitude when I'm cold knocking and there are 250 more doors in the subdivision to go knock on, than when I am running leads for which I paid $20-$30 a pop and I might have a 20 to 30 minute drive to my next lead.

When cold knocking, if they come to the door they come to the door. If not, it cost me nothing, I can always knock again, and my next "lead" is just 10 or 20 yards away.
 
So, if I just do the shuffle, you're not letting me in. But if I do the wave and the shuffle, then we're soon sitting at you kitchen table, right? ;)

I do use the wave when running FE leads. I use it when I see the shadow behind the peep hole, or the rustling of e blinds or curtains. I've never done the shuffle, but I have no doubt it can be effective. As far as I know none of us here on the forum can claim to trained up a sales force that can hold a candle to what Mr W. Clement Stone developed. He worked the wave and shuffle for a few billion dollars, right?

Also, when I'm cold knocking, I'm not trying to get in right there. I'm not looking for an FE sale. I'm trying to get an appointment, and I prefer if I can get them to come to the office rather than me come to their home. I don't use the wave when cold knocking. I have a different attitude when I'm cold knocking and there are 250 more doors in the subdivision to go knock on, than when I am running leads for which I paid $20-$30 a pop and I might have a 20 to 30 minute drive to my next lead.

When cold knocking, if they come to the door they come to the door. If not, it cost me nothing, I can always knock again, and my next "lead" is just 10 or 20 yards away.

First I have heard of Mr. Stone teaching the wave.. :unsure:
 
First I have heard of Mr. Stone teaching the wave..

I'm pretty sure I read a story somewhere that attributes the wave and the shuffle to Combined Insurance. But I may be wrong. @DHK and @NAF1138 are both former combined agents who've been through the corporate training. Perhaps they'd share if it was or is still a part of the company sales training in Chicago.
 
I was with Combined 8 years ago, but I didn't learn the "shuffle" or the "wave" there.

The focus was walking into businesses cold, asking to see the owner, and going right into the presentation.
They had another group that went H2H... Some selling accident, others selling life, others cancer. Later they added med supp but back then agents tended to work in crews that just sold one of the products.. Don't know if they still do that.
 
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