That's exactly my question too....
So we started with a 400 thousand dollar policy with a 5 year surrender charge period at 3.6% interest. We were told by the Citizens retail branch guy in 2018 that it would be just like a 5 year CD which is what we were shopping for at the time. Only real difference per the so called "Financial Advisor" at our local Citizens bank branch was that the interest rate was MUCH better!
(In hindsight we've learned that our policy should have been written as 2 separate policies; one in my name and one in my husband's name, each for 200 thousand....so we would have been fully protected by the Massachusetts SGA....but the scoundrel liar *** at our local Citizens Bank didn't know what he was doing... sadly for us! We actually BELIEVED him when he looked us in the eye and said as long as both our names were listed as joint owners on the policy that we were fully protected for up to 500 grand......yea RIGHT...)
Anyways -- FAST FORWARD.
Our surrender charge period ended about 2 months ago.
In a perfect world we would have been withdrawing the whole 400 grand plus 5 years worth of interest at 3.6%....but we all know that didn't happen.
So far... the only money we've seen is the 15 grand everyone got back in 2020 (one time exception to the moratorium) and last week we got about 6 grand... per the latest "accumulated interest" payment scenario.
So, the way I read this now is....we MIGHT actually get a hundred grand by the end of Summer 2023?
And then -- the big question --
Do we still get the 250 grand from the Mass Guaranty Association if/when the liquidation is finally triggered??
If both of those are true -- then we are only "out" about a hundred grand.
Much better than the 200 grand we thought we would be "out"......
 
That's exactly my question too....
So we started with a 400 thousand dollar policy with a 5 year surrender charge period at 3.6% interest. We were told by the Citizens retail branch guy in 2018 that it would be just like a 5 year CD which is what we were shopping for at the time. Only real difference per the so called "Financial Advisor" at our local Citizens bank branch was that the interest rate was MUCH better!
(In hindsight we've learned that our policy should have been written as 2 separate policies; one in my name and one in my husband's name, each for 200 thousand....so we would have been fully protected by the Massachusetts SGA....but the scoundrel liar *** at our local Citizens Bank didn't know what he was doing... sadly for us! We actually BELIEVED him when he looked us in the eye and said as long as both our names were listed as joint owners on the policy that we were fully protected for up to 500 grand......yea RIGHT...)
Anyways -- FAST FORWARD.
Our surrender charge period ended about 2 months ago.
In a perfect world we would have been withdrawing the whole 400 grand plus 5 years worth of interest at 3.6%....but we all know that didn't happen.
So far... the only money we've seen is the 15 grand everyone got back in 2020 (one time exception to the moratorium) and last week we got about 6 grand... per the latest "accumulated interest" payment scenario.
So, the way I read this now is....we MIGHT actually get a hundred grand by the end of Summer 2023?
And then -- the big question --
Do we still get the 250 grand from the Mass Guaranty Association if/when the liquidation is finally triggered??
If both of those are true -- then we are only "out" about a hundred grand.
Much better than the 200 grand we thought we would be "out"......

My understanding of what you would receive from Guaranty Association in your example would be $250k minus $21k already received. But, I am not 100% certain as this is not a common situation where any of us get experience from.

I hope I am wrong in my interpretation
 
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No, that 2020 "one time exception" payout had an expiration date.
It came about via a letter directly from the Rehabilitator.
It was an offer to take up to 10% of your full annuity amount -- with a max of 15 grand.

Also -- I spoke with the Mass Guaranty Association today and he confirmed that the 250 grand coverage amount would NOT be affected by the 21 grand we have received already. Nor would it be affected by the 25% payout we are all supposed to get by the end of Summer 2023..so that felt like really good news!...
 
I have gone back to the beginning of this thread and pulled out the names/tags of all the people who seem to be similar victims of this situation.
Folks -- we need to band together!!
If you want to have a voice and be heard please contact the Wall Street Journal reporter Mark Maremont who interviewed my husband and me a couple weeks ago.
They are working on a story.
More voices need to be heard.
His email is [email protected]
His phone number is 617-306-0796.
My husband has been on a Facebook thread today and has spoken on the phone with 3 other victims who are NOT on this insurance forums thread.
We are compiling a list of victims and so far including us -- we have 10 parties from 7 different states.
Some stand to lose a lot, others not as much...but we all agree Citizens needs to be investigated/exposed and they need to take SOME kind of financial responsibility here.
We could band together and try to file a class action suit.
I don't even know how that works but we need to start somewhere.
If you are listed below please reach out to me ASAP via my email which is [email protected]:
David Nyman - Utah
Mary Combs - Rhode Island
Debbie Griffiths - Georgia
Steve R - Florida
BankersNC_Victim - Florida
Stephen Round - Connecticut

Has there been any development on the story from Mark Maremont or class action lawsuit? Citizens bank really needs to be held accountable to some degree for this disaster.
 
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Watch your interest only payment for May. CBLife paid me again for all interest earned in my annuity since November 1, 2022. So I got double interest out of annuity. They told me to keep it, but assured me that the interest only amount in June will be done correctly. Lets hope not, the more they send out the better!
 
Everyone please fill out and send in your victim's impact statement! We all need to do everything we can to send this pos who stole our money to prison!
 
A couple of WSJ articles were published at the end of March, one specifically highlighting Citizens' role. An investigation is currently underway by the Massachusetts Secretary of State's Office.
If you purchased your MYGA from a Citizens retail branch please contact Pat Costello at the Boston office and tell your story:

Patrick M. Costello
Chief of Enforcement
Office of the Secretary of the Commonwealth, Securities Division
One Ashburton Place, Room 1701
Boston, Massachusetts 02108

T: (617) 727-3548
F: (617) 248-0177
[email protected]
 
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