Digital BGA - experience and telemarketing leads?

[WinoBlues]

I didn't add every single thing they offer. Of course they have training, top contracts, etc.

Regarding training...

You can have all the training in the world and access to top producers like you say, but it really comes down to your level of talent.

The ability to speak with a prospect is a talent. Yes, there's skill involved (the process to use), but your talent will determine how well you do it.

If someone doesn't have the talent, access to top producers won't help.

Regardless, access to other agents, training, etc. is not the biggest factor at all. Every other FE IMO has that, although I wouldn't say DigitalBGA is a normal IMO (see previous post).

It's the tech and leads combo that appeals to agents.

Are you a competitor or recruiter?

 

[Pass990]

Are you a competitor or recruiter?

Neither. I'm an agent.

Just seeking to understand their opportunity.

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My only issue is that they have nothing new (if you're tech savvy already), they're just combining everything into their platform.

 

[DHurd]

Neither. I'm an agent.

Just seeking to understand their opportunity.

I'm waiting for a response to my last post to Jeff. The leads, especially, need to be clarified.

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My only issue and really it's a constructive criticism is that they have nothing new (if you're tech savvy already), they're just combining everything into their platform.

Most agents are tech illiterate so they see these strategies and think it's amazing.

Anyone who uses any kind of internet marketing will analyze marketing and sales data to seek improvement and efficiency. But they say it like it's something revolutionary. That's my only issue.

The whole point of using digital strategies is to constantly analyze the data and improve everything. That's the luxury of digital marketing; everything can be tracked.

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Also... there's a pattern of exaggeration.

I mean, Jeff is initially known for promoting blogging to get SEO leads, which that strategy had already been around for years. Maybe it wasn't so prevalent in the life insurance space yet, but that doesn't mean the strategy is new.

He's kind of doing the same thing again. Talking about these new digital marketing strategies for insurance when those strategies have already been around for years. It's not revolutionary.

In the initial response to me in this thread, one of his rebuttals was that his CRM can do texting, call recording, lead queuing to call the best leads, etc.

Seriously?

Any sales CRM can do these things. But he says it like it's something new and only his CRM can do it. He used to use and promote Vanilla Soft, which does all of these things well.

There's a pattern of exaggerating and boasting about common digital marketing and sales strategies that have been around for years.

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I mean... Jeff is just an agent who just a few years ago had a big problem with Pinney insurance (and talked about it a lot on this forum). I think he got pissed and just wanted to create his own FMO to never deal with that stuff again, which is a good move. And the other guy I think is a former cop (could be wrong; I think I read that somewhere).

They're not tech superstars. They're not building their platform. They're paying developers to do it. Once again, anyone can do that.

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Also, why have an FMO?

FMOs usually don't have their own leads, so they just try to recruit.

Jeff has his own leads, so why not hire LOA agents only and keep more of the commission? Why do it as an FMO and only get back your lead cost and a small override on business?

If they didn't have the leads and just the tech, then the FMO makes sense. They offer their platform to agents.

But they also offer in-house leads. Wouldn't they make more money going the route of hiring their own agents?


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Their opportunity is good for someone who isn't tech savvy and doesn't know how to make a website, drive traffic to it, use any up-to-date internet marketing strategies, etc.

But if an agent is tech savvy and is already familiar with all the bells and whistles they have, then the opportunity is just ok, because the agent is already doing those things for themselves.

The reason for my initial post was because nobody was pushing back on anything Jeff was saying, which I found absurd. He was being glorified and yet really had nothing revolutionary.

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Waiting to hear back from Jeff on answers to my response to him.

Hope he doesn't feel insulted or attacked. I'm simply pushing back on some of his claims.

If he truly is the guy that his reputation holds him to be, then he'll understand the push-back and welcome it.

And I'd like him to clarify the leads as well, as mentioned in my response to him.

If you know you can make significantly more money combining all the aspects together yourself then why are you writing essays about dbga? You want someone to prove to you that you will make more money using their system then doing it yourself? For what purpose?

 

[Pass990]

If you know you can make significantly more money combining all the aspects together yourself then why are you writing essays about dbga? You want someone to prove to you that you will make more money using their system then doing it yourself? For what purpose?

I'll ignore your unnecessary essay comment.

Your comment also proves what I've said that nobody has ever pushed back on anything they say.

Jeff, on his own website, says to ask questions to the FMO and if they can't answer, then don't go with them. So, I'm asking questions.

Legitimate questions on topics that need clarifying.

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Yes, I'm seeing if they have something better.

I look at all opportunities all the time. As should everyone else.

 

[Pass990]

They have a good platform and opportunity, but I need more info to see if it's for me.

Also, even if someone is tech savvy, maybe they don't want to have their own tech stack and just plug in to an already pre-built tech stack like DBGA.

It's like if you were selling ecommerce products online. You can make your own shopping cart and platform if you know how, or customize one.

Or use a pre-built platform like Shopify, Big Commerce, Magento, etc.

 

[DHurd]

They have a good platform and opportunity, but I need more info to see if it's for me.

Also, even if someone is tech savvy, maybe they don't want to have their own tech stack and just plug in to an already pre-built tech stack like DBGA.

It's like if you were selling ecommerce products online. You can make your own shopping cart and platform if you know how, or customize one.

Or use a pre-built platform like Shopify, Big Commerce, Magento, etc.

You can go to their website and click to schedule a call. I'm sure someone would be happy to go over everything with you.

 

[Tahoe Ray]

They have a good platform and opportunity, but I need more info to see if it's for me.

I don't think it's for you.

They have guys that write 10k/week on their platform. Others not so much. So like any lead, a lot of whether "the leads are good" falls to the agent.

There are several DBGA agents who run their own websites, optimize their own SEO, and self generate a ton of leads. I would think those people are "tech savvy" and that they choose to align themselves with Digital for more than the leads.

You also seem to think that you can build all of this yourself and that it's super easy. Vanillasoft is going to run you a few hundred a month to customize it the way that Jeff and Nic have developed their CRM. Having a "plug and play" system is very attractive to most highly productive agents.

I'm sure that I could build my own car too if I watched enough youtube tutorials. I'd much rather just buy one from a dealership.

You can just go do it all yourself and buy Facebook leads.

 

[somarco]

Brandon and I are arguing over the word "cool" lately. He says kids (20 somethings) don't say that word anymore.

They probably don't say "rad" or "far out" either

 

[somarco]

I'm sure that I could build my own car too if I watched enough youtube tutorials.

My daughter assembled a bed from Ikea by watching GooTube videos.

I learned how to fold one of those spring into action windshield sun shades by watching a video.

 

[Tahoe Ray]

They probably don't say "rad" or "far out" either

Cool came back though. Wasn't it also popular in the 50s/60s? "Far out" timeframe?

Rad should still be used. I'll take that over "Gucci" any day of the week.