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[suranceman]

Yes and No

Correct its the calories

However, Higher Carb , more Suger especially added sugars, and Higher processed food has been proved to increase hunger, Be Less filling, And you crave more to sustain energy

That's all true, but it does not negate this irrefutable fact:

Calories Consumed < Calories Burned = fat loss
Calories Consumed > Calories Burned = fat gain

 

[monstrhuntr]

No it is because of how much calories people are consuming.

There is no medical condition in the universe that will cause someone to gain body fat when they consume less calories than they burn in a given day/week/month.

It's true that cheaper foods typically have more calories than more expensive foods. That said, someone who is poor and fat cannot blame the food. They are still consuming too many calories.

Will totally agree that people get too many calories and weight comes from calories. The fact of the matter is people are obese and getting rickets and other diseases caused by malnutrition. The standard american diet (and quickly becoming the world diet is terrible) and lack of exercise are to blame for most obesity and disease, but I think that the idea that you are dumb for donating to a food bank because poor people are fat is way off the mark.

 

[HoosierLife]

Wow guys. Get trolled much.

Boomers...

 

[vic120]

That's all true, but it does not negate this irrefutable fact:

Calories Consumed < Calories Burned = fat loss
Calories Consumed > Calories Burned = fat gain

Of Coarse it does not

However, it does give reason to why people who eat that type of food as their main and only food, gain more weight than those who eat much less of it

 

[Northeast Agent]

Cyborg7 said:

Why would you donate money to a food bank when the biggest health crisis facing Americans is overeating / obesity? Hopefully you aren't dumb enough to think otherwise

People should feel free to donate to whichever charity they want without being criticized. If you had gotten a check, who would you have donated to, if any?

BTW, I sometimes set up a table at food banks for DSNPs. Most of the stuff they get is donated processed/canned goods, milk, bread, eggs, peanut butter, etc. The local farmers/grocery stores donate unsold produce as well. I've asked what they really need and have been adamantly been told, "butter!"

So I'm sure DayTimer's check will be put to good use.

 

[DayTimer]

There is no medical condition in the universe that will cause someone to gain body fat when they consume less calories than they burn in a given day/week/month.

Yes, there is. It is called insulin resistance. It typically is paired with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease and it is the cause of the type 2 diabetes epidemic. Essentially what happens is your body is unable to burn the glucose because your cells have become resistant to the insulin which signals the presence of energy in the bloodstream in the form of glucose. So the body stores this unburnable energy as fat, because fat is the last tissue to become insulin resistant. Once in the fat, the body is unable to release that energy even though the body is calling for fuel because we keep eating sugars and starches which keeps insulin levels high. Insulin is the fat storage hormone. If you perpetually have high levels of the hormone that causes your body to store energy as fat you will start and continue to accumulate fat until the fat tissue itslef becomes insulin resistant. Then the fun really starts: Nephropathy, blindness, kidney failure, gangrene.

So what is really happening is we get hungry, even though we are walking around with enough energy stored in our fat cells to fuel us for several months without eating. This is why keto works: It reduces the glucose from dietary sources in the blood stream which reduces the body's production of insulin which allows cells to once again enjoy proper energy metabolism. In the absence of insulin, the body is able to release stored energy from fat cells. This is why keto dieters are said to become "fat burners."

What people like Geyer don't realize is those folks who are eating in spite of being obese are literally starving to death from the inside out. They have all the stored energy they need, but because the government keeps telling us that we need to eat low fat high carb most of us develop high circulating insulin. High insulin causes our muscle cells not to allow in the glucose that it needs for fuel and then same high insulin locks the glucose in our fat cells so that we cannot use it as nature meant for it to be used. We get fatter and fatter while remaining hungry.

The obesity epidemic is not caused by "calories in- calories out" deficiencies.

The obesity epidemic is caused by damaged and deranged metabolism caused by diets that consist of sugar and processed carbohydrate which is not what humans evolved eating. We were not and never were herbivores and we did not become the top of the food chain by eating bowls of white rice and frosted flakes.

This is the science at the foundation of the Bacon Diet.

 

[suranceman]

Yes, there is. It is called insulin resistance. It typically is paired with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease and it is the cause of the type 2 diabetes epidemic. Essentially what happens is your body is unable to burn the glucose because your cells have become resistant to the insulin which signals the presence of energy in the bloodstream in the form of glucose. So the body stores this unburnable energy as fat, because fat is the last tissue to become insulin resistant. Once in the fat, the body is unable to release that energy even though the body is calling for fuel because we keep eating sugars and starches which keeps insulin levels high. Insulin is the fat storage hormone. If you perpetually have high levels of the hormone that causes your body to store energy as fat you will start and continue to accumulate fat until the fat tissue itslef becomes insulin resistant. Then the fun really starts: Nephropathy, blindness, kidney failure, gangrene.

So what is really happening is we get hungry, even though we are walking around with enough energy stored in our fat cells to fuel us for several months without eating. This is why keto works: It reduces the glucose from dietary sources in the blood stream which reduces the body's production of insulin which allows cells to once again enjoy proper energy metabolism. In the absence of insulin, the body is able to release stored energy from fat cells. This is why keto dieters are said to become "fat burners."

What people like Geyer don't realize is those folks who are eating in spite of being obese are literally starving to death from the inside out. They have all the stored energy they need, but because the government keeps telling us that we need to eat low fat high carb most of us develop high circulating insulin. High insulin causes our muscle cells not to allow in the glucose that it needs for fuel and then same high insulin locks the glucose in our fat cells so that we cannot use it as nature meant for it to be used. We get fatter and fatter while remaining hungry.

The obesity epidemic is not caused by "calories in- calories out" deficiencies.

The obesity epidemic is caused by damaged and deranged metabolism caused by diets that consist of sugar and processed carbohydrate which is not what humans evolved eating. We were not and never were herbivores and we did not become the top of the food chain by eating bowls of white rice and frosted flakes.

This is the science at the foundation of the Bacon Diet.

Lets use your example of someone who has insulin resistance.

Lets say they consume no food. Are you saying they will never loss body fat?

 

[Northeast Agent]

DayTimer said:

This is the science at the foundation of the Bacon Diet.

One note about this to the "Bacon Boys." My Dad, a Type 2 diabetic, but not really heavy at all, ever had his gallbladder removed last January. He was given a list of foods he's not supposed to eat ever again. Before that, insisted on eating scrambled eggs, toasted and cooked meat every day for breakfast.

Guess who ate bacon Christmas morning and lived to regret it? I expect years from now, there will be a lot of Keto dieters who suffer from this same fate. Cooked, processed meat daily is not good for you, I firmly believe.

And I think they blame smoked meat for contributing to pancreatic cancer, too.

 

[vic120]

Lets use your example of someone who has insulin resistance.

Lets say they consume no food. Are you saying they will never loss body fat?

Ok so that's your answer consume no food?

 

[Tahoe Ray]

Ok so that's your answer consume no food?

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