Enhanced Jane Leads.....

[goillini52]

When we partnered with YIG we got a 5-point bump on our Trans contract which we passed to the agents. So minimum wage with Trans went from 110% to 115%. That was not a requirement of YIG. They have no control of what we do. We just got a bump so we gave the minimum wage a bump.

What Petey is trying to imply is that all the other IMOs have 125% as their minimum contract. I'm calling BS on that because I get agents move contracts to me all the time from every IMO that are on lower contracts. If Petey will just name the IMO that gives them all the 125% then it will be good for everyone because it would alert any agent with that IMO with a less contract that he needs to get bumped to their minimum. And it would force the rest of us IMOs to to compete with the bar set a little higher.

When we public ally bumped every agent to a minimum of 115% some of the other IMOs complained to Trans. When we bumped RNA's minimum to 120% there was a huge effort by other IMOs to get that restricted. I even had an agent at the 5-Star convention tell me his IMO has him convinced that we can't be profitable giving Every agent 120% with RNA. Even though that spread is larger than other spreads we work with.

The fact is, this is the free enterprise system at work. What we do is good for agents whether you are with us or not. What our competitors do is good for our agents whether they are with them or not.

Every IMO is out to make money. Working with thinner margins requires us to work a little harder. We do it. Some others do a good job too. But no body does it better. And any time I have an agent that doesn't appreciate what I do, I don't wish bad things on him. But I think he needs to move on. Because I work hard and I don't have enough time to spend with all the agents who value my time. I don't want to spend one minute of it on someone who thinks I don't add value to their business.

Sorry Scott, but I call BS. I know street for Trannie was 115% in June of 2014, and I'm sure long before that. You've always said you automatically give top contracts, so that wasn't true if you were only giving 110%.

Nice try, trying to spin what Petey said. He didn't say street was 125%...he said some IMO's would give 120-125% to top producers.

 

[Newby]

This is SERIOUS, and won't just "go away". It really screams for a reply/explanation from Newby, or it risks doing big damage to his rep. Scott?

Yes! It's horrible.

What he's shifting it to is an agent that ordered leads from YIG and the order came up short. They gave him a guarantee of how many he would get and from my understanding stuck him with some aged leads to complete his order.

As soon as it was brought to our attention, Travis had it corrected within minutes and made certain that all of our agents knew not to order leads through them. Which they were never one of our Prefered lead vendors.

And that is very much worth complaining about. But Gooner wasn't complaining about that. He's complaining about spam. Spam isn't in the same league.

 

[KidsGotHeart]

Yes! It's horrible.

What he's shifting it to is an agent that ordered leads from YIG and the order came up short. They gave him a guarantee of how many he would get and from my understanding stuck him with some aged leads to complete his order.

As soon as it was brought to our attention, Travis had it corrected within minutes and made certain that all of our agents knew not to order leads through them. Which they were never one of our Prefered lead vendors.

And that is very much worth complaining about. But Gooner wasn't complaining about that. He's complaining about spam. Spam isn't in the same league.

Are you saying Travis said to avoid doing buisness with your buisness partner?

 

[Newby]

Sorry Scott, but I call BS. I know street for Trannie was 115% in June of 2014, and I'm sure long before that. You've always said you automatically give top contracts, so that wasn't true if you were only giving 110%. Nice try, trying to spin what Petey said. He didn't say street was 125%...he said some IMO's would give 120-125% to top producers.

That would be stating the obvious. ALL IMOs give 120's, to 130's for top producers.

We are talking about minimum contracts with no one left behind. As in no exceptions. And no one has named a single IMO that has 100% of their agents at 120% or higher.

That is what we have been talking about the entire time. And Petey is still dodging.

 

[John Galt]

Newby your note acted like your association with yig afforded agents a higher commission with trans at 115%. This is generic street. I simply said there's imos giving 120% and a few 125% with zero production requirements with trans . I'm willing to guess you're the 3rd leg of a down line with trans with yig the second and they're under a nmo.So you're probably at 140% or maybe 145% with trans. You've built your whole organization threw an Internet insurance forum. I get tons of pm's with people telling me my posts are a breath of fresh air as I'm sick and tired of all the marketers and there hype and your notes have no spam behind them and speak the truth. Im just trying to educate people what's out there AND I HAVE NO BIAS ARE PROFIT MOTIVE. 2 of your main supporters have now turned on you. This is why I chose to basically keep to myself and stay a loner. When people get to close to each other there's usually disagreement and jeoulousy to come. Fex used to poo pooed fixed cost leads and then you hyped settlers coming deal till it fell apart . You poo pooed tm leads and now I here you have an affiliation with somebody and are pushing them. In the end I want hard working agents who bust there butt in the field to understand your imo does very little for you after the first few months and is sucking commissions of you for life. Do you think Newby gets on here writing notes out of the goodness of his heart? Lol he's on here making $100's of k a yr in over rides basically having a rah rah call weekly and uses Jd as his front guy to mkt. I'm sure jd is well rewarded .At least imos with fully underwritten cos like pru are american General process your business but Fe imos just try to suck a living off hard working and many struggling agents.They're wolves in sheeps clothing.

After that post I wanna give you a hug....in a completely non gay way mind you

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Probably because you've got more production than John Galt...

Thats what I would think, he does, Ill admit it, but....although me and Travis have had our differences in the past I can honestly say the guy knows his stuff and will go into battle to fight for his hard working agents. I see TravisFEX.com in the future, but what do I know?

 

[Newby]

Are you saying Travis said to avoid doing buisness with your buisness partner?

YIG leads have always been available to our agents but not a part of out business model. We have our own leads.

But YIG as a lead vendor is just like any other lead vendor. Got to be good for us to recommend them. YIG leads are not a part of the Fex business model.

 

[Thad.Sipple]

Yes! It's horrible. What he's shifting it to is an agent that ordered leads from YIG and the order came up short. They gave him a guarantee of how many he would get and from my understanding stuck him with some aged leads to complete his order. As soon as it was brought to our attention, Travis had it corrected within minutes and made certain that all of our agents knew not to order leads through them. Which they were never one of our Prefered lead vendors. And that is very much worth complaining about. But Gooner wasn't complaining about that. He's complaining about spam. Spam isn't in the same league.

Anyone else see a trend here?

 

[John Galt]

Shouldn't you be helping Jane alert the seniors to the changes to the Social Security Death Benefit?

Does Jane break the news that the last change was in 1942 or does the agent have to drop that bomb on them?

Is that within the rules too?

Ill have to admit that zinger was funny as hell

 

[peteybear]

Ok scott you never took my first bet 4 months ago and you had an opp to make $100k . I'll make the wager very small so you can't back out. The wager is $1k so now you can't back out because it's too much money.Since giant 1 1/2 yr old Fex gives "the highest minimum contracts on the planet" I will publicly name an imo that gives 120% to every single agent who asks for a trans contract.Im doing this for a small wager so I'm praying you take the bet so once and for all I can shut you up. Before you take this bet remember what you have to lose before I embarrass you. Forget the $1k. If you lose you'll agree to never ever publicly recruit another person on this board are spam fex. You and Travis must agree to this. I will publicly name the imo and I'm sure others on here can verify. This imo is not on this board and I don't have contracts with him.

 

[John Galt]

Ok scott you never took my first bet 4 months ago and you had an opp to make $100k . I'll make the wager very small so you can't back out. The wager is $1k so now you can't back out because it's too much money.Since giant 1 1/2 yr old Fex gives "the highest minimum contracts on the planet" I will publicly name an imo that gives 120% to every single agent who asks for a trans contract.Im doing this for a small wager so I'm praying you take the bet so once and for all I can shut you up. Before you take this bet remember what you have to lose before I embarrass you. Forget the $1k. If you lose you'll agree to never ever publicly recruit another person on this board are spam fex. You and Travis must agree to this. I will publicly name the imo and I'm sure others on here can verify. This imo is not on this board and I don't have contracts with him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6eQ78HCGEA