For those of you using NORVAX...

[Guest]

Re: Norvax or Quotit

Anything has to be better (and cheaper) than Norvax.

I don't know. Marc uses Norvax and he sent me a sample quote and I was impressed with all the features their system has.

I use the IFP quote engine of Rogers Benefits. I have NO IDEA why they maintain an IFP engine because I don't think they take IFP... and even if they did no one with half a brain would submit an IFP to a GA... but its a pretty good quote engine for my needs.

For group I tend to like the Benefit Mall engine just a tad better than Rogers, but it's a close call.

The best IFP engine in my opinion is zapquote but it is not free and I feel guilty using the demo all the time.... but would not get $65/month of use out of it if I subscribed.

I run all my own quotes. I don't encourage clients of mine to do that work.... but if they want I give them links to the "my" sites on the carriers servers or I tell them to play on the ehealth site.

I've never had anyone go 'direct' though ehealth but if they did they would probably not be a client I would want anyway. Most of my folks are fairly HNW and they value service, attention, etc.... and they know I don't cost them anything... although there is one person here who would claim I'm the worst agent on the planet and that alone is a 'cost.' And I may be the worst... but clients like me, they like my newsletter, and so far I've not made any major mistakes that I know about... not that I'm actually smart enough to know what I know yet! It's only been about 18 months for me and I think I finally understand what a co-pay is :-)

Al

 

[GreenSky]

Re: Norvax or Quotit

The best IFP engine in my opinion is zapquote but it is not free and I feel guilty using the demo all the time.... but would not get $65/month of use out of it if I subscribed.

But you seem to be willing to use it. I am specifically questioning (this is a general question and certainly wouldn't be pointing it to you Al) if using a demo and not paying for the program is stealing. That might not be considered ethical.

If you can't afford or don't need the $65 monthly service, then don't use the product. (Again, this is a general statement and not pointed at any specific person).

... although there is one person here who would claim I'm the worst agent on the planet and that alone is a 'cost.' And I may be the worst...

I sure that person doesn't know every agent on the planet so the claim would be absurd. But if you feel you are the worst, who am I to argue?

Rick

 

[Guest]

Re: Norvax or Quotit

if using a demo and not paying for the program is stealing. That might not be considered ethical.

I had a conversation with Frank Loughry some six months ago about this and he's OK with people using the demo for real work. I told him he should bring out a $10/month subscription service and he said he is working on it. Talk to him if you don't believe me... and I am 100% sure you don't. (A man who does not believe in God surely won't believe me! )

I sure that person doesn't know every agent on the planet so the claim would be absurd.

I don't think he'd agree to that at all. This person has a huge ego, but not the self-control to keep it in check... or from embarrassing him when he shoots from the lip.

But if you feel you are the worst, who am I to argue?

We are in agreement here. You're "nobody."

[FONT=Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,helv,sans-serif] I'm nobody! Who are you?
Are you nobody, too?
Then there's a pair of us — don't tell!
They'd banish us, you know.[/FONT] [FONT=Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,helv,sans-serif]

How dreary to be somebody!
How public, like a frog
To tell your name the livelong day
To an admiring bog!
-Emily Dickinson[/FONT]

Al

 

[GreenSky]

Re: Norvax or Quotit

I had a conversation with Frank Loughry some six months ago about this and he's OK with people using the demo for real work. I told him he should bring out a $10/month subscription service and he said he is working on it. Talk to him if you don't believe me... and I am 100% sure you don't. (A man who does not believe in God surely won't believe me! )

I know Frank much better than you do and speak with him quite often. I pay for his program. I absolutely believe he would say he's okay with you using his program for free. He's a very nice man and realizes that if someone is dishonest enough to use his demo instead of paying for the service, there is little he can do about it.

Have you ever sent him a dollar for all his hard work? I'm sure he can feed his family and pay his mortgage when people steal his program.

We are in agreement here. You're "nobody."
Al

Gee, Al. That sounds like a personal attack. But coming from someone who doesn't pay for services he uses for his own personal gain (perhaps you can't afford to pay for services), I'll just ignore the remark.

I used to have zapquote on my "public" website but there are a lot of dishonest agents who thought nothing of going there and using what I paid for to run their own quotes. I thought they were less than ethical.

Seems you do the same thing so if the shoe fits...

Rick

 

[Guest]

Re: Norvax or Quotit

I know Frank much better than you do and speak with him quite often.

Of course you do. Silly of me to think otherwise

I pay for his program.

Sure you do. Silly of me to think otherwise.

I absolutely believe he would say he's okay with you using his program for free.

Um, if he is OK with it, what is your beef? What jurisdiction do you have in the case? How is it dishonest to use something you are given permission to use? Rick there is no logic here... just your usual anger and bad attitude.

when people steal his program.

So everyone is a thief according to you? Whatever. I won't argue with a closed mind.

Gee, Al. That sounds like a personal attack.

Gee, you think?

I'll just ignore the remark.

How about just ignoring me? If so, Christmas comes early this year.

I thought they were less than ethical.

You think everyone is less than ethical.

Seems you do the same thing so if the shoe fits...

This is absurd. I'm done in this thread. Take the last word if you wish. Just try to be coherent.

Al

 

[Consultant]

Re: Norvax or Quotit

Norvax vs Quotit

California - Norvax, hands down.

1. Quote Assurant (unlike Quotit)

2. High-end website editing software.

If you want organic traffic Norvax wins hands down (period).

 

[Macdaddy]

Re: Norvax or Quotit

Norvax vs Quotit

California - Norvax, hands down.

1. Quote Assurant (unlike Quotit)

2. High-end website editing software.

If you want organic traffic Norvax wins hands down (period).

Organic traffic?

Actually I will have to disagree. I have Norvax and they use a CSS (cascading style sheets) content management system. These database type systems are terrible for SEO. Static web pages, which is old technology reigns supreme for organic SEO.

 

[somarco]

Re: Norvax or Quotit

I have had both. Fired Norvax to pick up Quotit. I could care less if they ever offer Time quotes.

 

[Consultant]

Re: Norvax or Quotit

Organic traffic?

Actually I will have to disagree. I have Norvax and they use a CSS (cascading style sheets) content management system. These database type systems are terrible for SEO. Static web pages, which is old technology reigns supreme for organic SEO.

I appreciate your input. Norvax - you can edit the html to put rich content in. i.e. new streaming content, keywords according to your google input etc. which google/yahoo/msn spiders just eat up. If you would like to argue about this more - you can pm me.

 

[TXINSURANCE]

Re: Norvax or Quotit

I have been with BOTH companies at some point - the best thing is to call each company and ask them each for a detailed web conference demo, figure out which is best for YOUR business and go from there...

-What carriers are quoted?
-What options can you customize?
-What is the COST of the service?
-Do you need a site built or integrate to existing site?
-Do you need hosting of site and / or email?

Neither service is perfect I can assure you. We dropped Quotit years ago because they were unresponsive to many problems such only allowing AGE instead of DATE OF BIRTH (i.e. client is 35 forever and doesn't age...) , database issues, etc., Some of my issues from a long time ago have been resolved, some have not.

If you can WAIT about 3 weeks - please do so.

I am beta testing the new Norvax Broker Office right now and it will be launching VERY SOON - then compare to Quotit you might be surprised.