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You'd have to be an *** to contract with Securus...
Is Securus the New NAA??
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Lots of idiots in the world.
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tins said:
What's that suppose to mean?
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There is supposedly a new guy over there that came from NAA. That's the rumor anyway.
I went to one NAA convention and paid for the honor of being there.It was at the Marriott in Atlanta, Ga. Coincidence?
I thought the folks at Securus were above this kind of crap.
I went to the Atlanta convention in 2005 - they had an ice storm of all things.
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jacobtn said:
Why do you feel that way? I personally feel I have been successfully making a great living with them . Interested to hear your thoughts.
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When I was with NAA I was in North Carolina now in MA
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That's the one I went to. It took us 30 minutes to get the ice off our car on Sunday to even get the doors open to get out of there. A big chunk of ice fell off a light pole as we were leaving and did $800 damage to the hood of our Envoy.
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jdeasy said:
When mother nature is trying to warn you, I would listen.
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My experience with NAA was mostly good. I did not care for the rah-rah BS os their convention so I never went to another one.
I was with a good team and learned a lot there. My undoing at NAA was not geting on the recruiting bandwagon. They went from production is king to recruiting is king over my 2 and half years there.
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JD -- curious -- at the end of your NAA career, you came onboard with EFES, right?
How did you find out about them?
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No. I was away from NAA for more than 2 years before going with EFES.
I did deal with EMG a little after NAA and did not have a good experience. I was mostly doing MA plans. I was the top producer in this region for 3 different companies. That's why I picked up LH for FE. None of those companies had FE or if they did it wasn't a good product.
I had a very plan for duals and I could sell more of them off LH leads than I could their FE. My manager with LH didn't care about that since they didn't have MA plans, {he tried to tell LH after the fact that he didn't know I was doing MA's but he had me meet with his mother for an MA plan}.
The winds of change were blowing for MA plans and how we sell them during the summer and fall of '08 with the MIPPA, {Humana}, rules being implimented in Sept '08. That was going to end my being able to place mA plans from LH leads and I told my upline that I wanted no more leads from them.
I had already contracted with Newby for Forethought that summer and then I contracted with Travis to pick up RNA. After contracting with Travis for RNA we had many conversations about leads. I was doing my own mail by that time and also buying the "press 1" leads. Travis talked to me about goling with the EFES lead program. I did not want to because of my previous experience with EMG. He convinced me that EMG and EFES were different even though they had the same ownership. I talked to people at EFES and they wouldn't talk about EMG.
I'm coming up my 4 year anniversary with EFES at the end of this month. I had previously thought that it was the end of Sept because that's what it says at the EFES site but it turns out that was my contract date with RNA not my contract date to get on the EFES lead program.
I had a very rough start with EFES and I was thinking it was EMG all over again. Travis convinced me to stick it out. I am glad I listened.
I'm not a lifer in this business. I'm only in my 9th year of insurance. Still, I've had many experiences in that time and a lot of trial and error to find my way.
I've been involved with some of the worst IMO's this industry has to offer, Parker and Asses, RBI, in may opinions NAA, etc. and with some of the best, Frank Statsny, JLS, EFES, etc.
Meeting Travis Tubbs and partnering with EFES has been the best things to happen for me in my career. I would add meeting Newby also as a very good thing for my business even though we are competitors.
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