Ben I put a $100k challenge out in November and not one person took me up on it. Case closed. Now as far as contracts go volume is very deceiving.The bottom line is how good a negotiater one is . Agent A could personally produce 500k and be at 135%. Agent B could have a downline do $1 million and be at 130%. Also no imo wants to put all his eggs in one basket.Lets say one day you and your fellow "superstars" decide to leave 360. Brad is screwed if he doesn't have his own agents .The bible rule in this business for an imo is be diversified.
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Oh and trust me Brad has plenty of agents that are not under me. Brad might be some dumb but he isn't plumb dumb 
Negotiating is easily done. Have I been offered higher on contracts at other places? Of course. But it is like 2 carriers and 5% higher but I can only use those two. Then one over here at another IMO at 5% and on and on and on.
Agents that want to do that is perfectly fine by me. I have agents with just one or two contracts with me. But a lot of agents want the whole package. Leads, Training, Blitz, Ding Maching, and on and on. They see no reason to get 5% more here or there on one or two.
For instance (Newby, Travis and JD this is just an example) lets say I called and offered JD 10% higher across the board. (Not that I could because I have no idea what he has)....but for example sake....Let's say I did. I guarantee you he wouldn't take it. Not because we are bad, but because he is happy with the program he is in.
I had an agent that I trained from day 1 in this business. He had never ever been in insurance. I spent a ton of time with him helping him and getting him going. Now he writes volume in the ballpark of AgentGuy5 and has for a year. Once he hit big numbers I called him out of the blue and moved his contracts up. He didn't even have to ask.
Could someone reach out to him and offer him a little higher? Sure they could! Would he take it? NOPE! It has already happened and he didn't take it. If you are making 200k a year why would you try to move and test a new lead program, new training, ect when where you are is working fine?
Only agents that hide behind screen names would do stuff like that.
As far as your 100k contest...That would be like me saying I bet 100k that the Atlanta Braves will win the Super Bowl next year. No one would even take the bet because they would know a dumbass that makes a bet like that definitely doesn't have the 100k to back it up.
But as far as what you think about me...I am readily available. Matter of a fact I tell you this. And this is a public announcement....I will come to WHEREVER you are working next week! I will drive you around all week and buy your food all week. I don't want a split or anything! You have an opinion of me without ever meeting me. Why don't you try meeting me and see if you feel the same way???
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"Dear Lord please don't let THE GREAT PEDOBEAR live in Alaska or California or Maine and take me up on my offer! Much appreciated!"
Negotiating is easily done. Have I been offered higher on contracts at other places? Of course. But it is like 2 carriers and 5% higher but I can only use those two. Then one over here at another IMO at 5% and on and on and on.
Agents that want to do that is perfectly fine by me. I have agents with just one or two contracts with me. But a lot of agents want the whole package. Leads, Training, Blitz, Ding Maching, and on and on. They see no reason to get 5% more here or there on one or two.
For instance (Newby, Travis and JD this is just an example) lets say I called and offered JD 10% higher across the board. (Not that I could because I have no idea what he has)....but for example sake....Let's say I did. I guarantee you he wouldn't take it. Not because we are bad, but because he is happy with the program he is in.
I had an agent that I trained from day 1 in this business. He had never ever been in insurance. I spent a ton of time with him helping him and getting him going. Now he writes volume in the ballpark of AgentGuy5 and has for a year. Once he hit big numbers I called him out of the blue and moved his contracts up. He didn't even have to ask.
Could someone reach out to him and offer him a little higher? Sure they could! Would he take it? NOPE! It has already happened and he didn't take it. If you are making 200k a year why would you try to move and test a new lead program, new training, ect when where you are is working fine?
Only agents that hide behind screen names would do stuff like that.
As far as your 100k contest...That would be like me saying I bet 100k that the Atlanta Braves will win the Super Bowl next year. No one would even take the bet because they would know a dumbass that makes a bet like that definitely doesn't have the 100k to back it up.
But as far as what you think about me...I am readily available. Matter of a fact I tell you this. And this is a public announcement....I will come to WHEREVER you are working next week! I will drive you around all week and buy your food all week. I don't want a split or anything! You have an opinion of me without ever meeting me. Why don't you try meeting me and see if you feel the same way???
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"Dear Lord please don't let THE GREAT PEDOBEAR live in Alaska or California or Maine and take me up on my offer! Much appreciated!"
Lol great response. I never made $100k bet to one agent. I made it for the top 20 agents on here to put up $5k each and see who the #1 agent is.I'm not advocating an agent jump ship. Maybe you provide a great service to agents.Each agent needs to look at the total package and make his own decision. Hey by the way what happened to that agent you had in new Hampshire ddc something?Ben you ready to fly to Alaska?
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Dude if you live in Alaska I will never talk to you on here again! But honestly that would be my luck. But also don't think I wouldn't back up my word and show up!
Honestly about dcdfuneral, he posted here in one forum a week or so ago. You are welcome to message me privately but I don't think I should put someone's personal info out here in the open. He had to slow down a good bit during the snow since he is in Maine.
Also I am just throwing this out there because I know you aren't quite sure exactly how I operate, but I have told people several times to contact other IMO's. For example, I sent one to Twilight. Sent one to Reardon today. Sent some to FEX. As a side note, everyone of those I mentioned sent agents to me also. I have had FEX send agents to me that were closer to me. If an agent calls me that is close to Travis, I tell them all about him and FEX and if they decide they still want to go with me, I don't want them. That would be like an agent living 10 miles from Spur City. Other IMO's would be hard to offer to that agent what he could.
As far as the 5k bet thing I honestly don't remember what it was, but I am not scared of bets. And you have to admit yourself you know I am not scared to travel.
I think I know where your image of me comes from. So many people offer agents 50% and no real training or other things. I offer street and in depth training. Not only myself....Spur, Doug, Mark, Glen, Courtney and several more are on my calls also giving advice and training.
Tell you what, send me an email and I will send you our last call. Might be helpful to you. Might not but it could be, but atleast it will give you and example of what we do. Kinda the tip of the iceburg but still an idea.
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Honestly about dcdfuneral, he posted here in one forum a week or so ago. You are welcome to message me privately but I don't think I should put someone's personal info out here in the open. He had to slow down a good bit during the snow since he is in Maine.
Also I am just throwing this out there because I know you aren't quite sure exactly how I operate, but I have told people several times to contact other IMO's. For example, I sent one to Twilight. Sent one to Reardon today. Sent some to FEX. As a side note, everyone of those I mentioned sent agents to me also. I have had FEX send agents to me that were closer to me. If an agent calls me that is close to Travis, I tell them all about him and FEX and if they decide they still want to go with me, I don't want them. That would be like an agent living 10 miles from Spur City. Other IMO's would be hard to offer to that agent what he could.
As far as the 5k bet thing I honestly don't remember what it was, but I am not scared of bets. And you have to admit yourself you know I am not scared to travel.
I think I know where your image of me comes from. So many people offer agents 50% and no real training or other things. I offer street and in depth training. Not only myself....Spur, Doug, Mark, Glen, Courtney and several more are on my calls also giving advice and training.
Tell you what, send me an email and I will send you our last call. Might be helpful to you. Might not but it could be, but atleast it will give you and example of what we do. Kinda the tip of the iceburg but still an idea.
[email protected]
Not necessarily. In the last 3-4 weeks I have had 4 agents CONTRACT with me who ALL won carrier trips in 2014 and ALL produced over 200K. These guys a FAR from being fools. Next week I will be having lunch with another stud who is CURRENTLY the #1 producer for a VERY well known carrier that will more than likely team up with me. These aren't your average agents, these guys have been playing the insurance game for a while and know what else is out there.
I will say it has been an absolute honor to work with some of the guys I'm currently working with. I've ALWAYS read and been taught to surround myself with the BEST of the BEST in order to improve and flourish. You can't help but get better when you surround yourself with some of the great agents I'm teaming with. There was a well known agent that came up to ride with me yesterday who wins carrier trips like Tim Duncan wins Championships. We had a decent day ($2,700 AP) BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY I probably learned just as much OR MORE from him than he did from me. Chatting and picking each others brains ALL DAY and exploring FE ideas and concepts at the HIGHEST of levels.
As far as commissions, I won't get into details about commissions or much of anything else like that around here, other than to say I can rival just about anyone's offers on here.
Lastly, the last time I checked 360 has:
the #1 and #3 agents in the country for TRINITY
the #1 and #2 agents in the country for SNL
2 or 3 of the top 5 agents in the country for Liberty Bankers I believe
Brad could pull out all the others if he wanted because that list goes on and on...
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Lots of recruiting rah rah in this thread...the "ding" machine has got to be worth 15 points alone...
I almost retract what I said about Newby recruiting.The 360 gang is on a rampage.They got all the big hitters in the industry and will wipe everyone else out . They're using that fixed cost lead as there weapon .No disprespect spur but last time I checked trinity doesn't even do enough business to have there own underwriter . I think trinity has less than 7 employees . Snl did $3 million in final expense ap last yr. Still a great honor to be in top #3 with these cos but surely not even equivalent to being top 100 with met,pru or northwestern.
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