Sat. Night Massacre AKA Senate Vote

[TXINSURANCE]

Oh you think this bill is going to be passed and Obama is going to sign it by the end of December Ahhhh..........I don't think so.

I never put a firm date.

A bill will pass.

A bill will have Guaranteed Issue with or without a mandate.

A bill will have exchanges.

Depending on how much meat is left on the bone I may or may not continue operations. I could go out of business. I could make more money than now.

This is all I know at this point.

 

[insurehound]

If a final bill is passed, can it be un-passed later? Another words, can it be stopped even after it is passed? I can see a Republican congress and/or President being voted in the future...

 

[Crabcake Johnny]

They can hold up implementation. The bill passing is not a consideration but when the private carriers submit their rates along with the final rates of the public option? That's when it'll get interesting.

 

[insurehound]

Al, what's a "neo-con"? Please be specific.

 

[Crabcake Johnny]

Neoconservatism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Winter_123]

They can hold up implementation. The bill passing is not a consideration but when the private carriers submit their rates along with the final rates of the public option? That's when it'll get interesting.

Oh I think the bill is at least a consideration.

 

[Crabcake Johnny]

Nope - pretty much everyone's been properly bought and paid for. This is a windfall for both the carriers and Pharma and the fix is in.

Yeah, a bit of back and forth on the language but it's done. Question; you see the carriers going nuts? Exactly....the fix is in.

 

[Winter_123]

If a final bill is passed, can it be un-passed later? Another words, can it be stopped even after it is passed? I can see a Republican congress and/or President being voted in the future...

Health reform will be tinkered with by every Congress to come for the rest of our remaining lives.

As with every other piece of legislation, you may have the initial enabling legislation that establishes a program but then the real action is to see what the funding looks like that goes with it each year.

How much the subsidy/tax credit will be for government approve plans may vary depending on whether the entire economy is tanking or not. Yet it is the level of subsidy that will determine the governments ability to carrot and stick people around.

Some type of reform will pass in late winter and it will have a projected price tag. How reality will change those assumptions before 2013 remains to be seen. But yes, this is not a constitution amendment. What Congress giveth here, another can taketh.

Sometime after the first of the year both dems and repubs will be coming back to Olympia Snowe to try to put a moderate plan together, including public option with trigger. No one here nor the dems nor the repubs were ready to hear that last month and still are not ready. That time is coming though.

 

[insurehound]

Nope - pretty much everyone's been properly bought and paid for. This is a windfall for both the carriers and Pharma and the fix is in.

Yeah, a bit of back and forth on the language but it's done. Question; you see the carriers going nuts? Exactly....the fix is in.

Completely agree with you healthagent

 

[ins.dave]

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