what would you be alluding to here?
Securus Vs EFES in Building a Team: Any Information on Greg Harvey?
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what would you be alluding to here?
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Draw your own conclusions.
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I woul;d be interested in what you are implying as well.
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Rumor is that several of those top producers are disgruntled because of false promises by securus. Those guys may be jumping right back.
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No implications. Pretty much what is already public domain.
Tim, Fred, Rob, and a few others left EFES for Securus a while back, when Securus pitched them a better deal.
Obviously all left, despite having 6 month waiting period on their carriers, for something they felt was lacking at EFES.
Now that would be an interesting story to hear why they'd come back; can you name names, Matt?
Tim, Fred, Rob, and a few others left EFES for Securus a while back, when Securus pitched them a better deal.
Obviously all left, despite having 6 month waiting period on their carriers, for something they felt was lacking at EFES.
Now that would be an interesting story to hear why they'd come back; can you name names, Matt?
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Only 2 of those were top 5 agents at EFES. And they did not leave because of personal production issues. They left for Securus because of recruiting. I don't think anyone has said that Securus was not better for team building.
To imply that they left for any other reason is just misleading. Nor did they care about the 6 month waiting period because they weren't going for personal production. Plus, Monumental is Securus' main carrier and EFES didn't have Monumental when Tim left.
I don't know of any managers that left EFES for Securus that want to go back to EFES. I do know of many producers that left EFES for Securus that not only want to go back to EFES, they are going back to EFES.
Tim W had a very sweet deal with EFES. He was paying $9 per lead and write over $1 mil in personal production in 2 and a 1/4 years there. He was topped out on commission as he was under Travis and was not a manager. In order to recruit and offer 95-100% contracts, which he wanted to do, he had to go to where he could do that and still make money on over-rides. He could have started people at 80%, but that is not Tim's style.
I can't speak for the success of Securus agents, but I do know that there has not been one single unsuccessful agent that left EFES for a better, or the same, deal and became succesful elsewhere. Not one! Now, has there successful agents at EFES that went elsewhere and also had success? Of course there has. Tim W. is just one of those. But, he would have been successful wherever he went. He was a succsessful agent before he ever got to EFES and he will be successful when/if he leaves Securus. Still, no one has left EFES that couldn't make it there and blew up with another FE IMO. There have been agents that couldn't make it with EFES that went to Securus and couldn't make it there and then went on somewhere else and still didn't make it.
More do not make it in this business than do make it. That's all lines of insurance, really.
This is the primary reason that I do not recruit. You can ahand hold these agents and bend over backwards for them and they will leave you with cahargebacks and them get on a public forum and bash you because they couldn't/wouldn't do the work.
Pretty well sums it up for anywhere you go. The ones that are succesful will succeed anywhere they go. The ones that aren't successful in one place normally will fail wherever they go. The reason? Changing companies doesn't change the agent. Each takes the work habits they have developed to the new position or company.
Wish there was a like button for your post.
If a new agent takes every negative post about every company to heart, they'd go wait tables.
Someone who works hard and can sell will succeed...no matter who they are with.
Haha... "Rocky" theme song playing with trophies in the background. Amazing...
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