Selling for Multiple IMO/FMO'S

[HoosierDaddy]

You guys are starved for drama... The one thing I am is transparent. I have no reason not to be.

Matt was asked to move his contracts because he offers diminishing returns. I like Matt personally, but many agents find him offensive and off putting. I enjoy his humor and his countless daily post, however many agents got the perception Matt's negative tone was that of FEX.

We would have had a conversation with JG earlier, however his relationship with Donnie (Gooner) gave him more time. Also when they started their tele-lead business. (Monkey Dust Leads) FEX offered complete support.

JG has struggled at FEX. I see the production reports. I attribute that to JG choosing to work a much different business model then most at FEX. Donnie (Gooner) does similar but has experienced a great deal more success than JG at their business plan.

This is a just a nudge for JG to go be successful. You have to do something different or you will continue to get the same results.

As far as I know JG has not purchases DM while with FEX... Now he is going to do 150K next year and take advantage of DM leads. I say way to go! I have been telling you to buy leads and there are a lot of agent that are killing it in Georgia.

Everyone should quit all the worrying about nothing and go write some business and earn yourself a convention trip, and get yourself out of that Motel 6 in Tulsa, OK on a Wednesday night.

 

[John Galt]

riginally Posted by Newby View Post

So there was a place that was 5-points up on one and 15-points down on the other? And when they found out their agents were complaining that street was now 15 points higher what happened? Someone complained to RNA. Right? That's your example of an FMO that treats every street level agent better?

I've tried to be nice with you JG through this whole process. We've been fair to you coming in and fair going out. You can spin BS four different ways. Doesn't make it true.

I had to copy and past this above ^^^^ because maybe you deleted it not sure. Scott, you know that is not what I am talking about, lol. Not spinning BS, you and now that I think of it Travis both know what Im referring to...Travis handled the negotiation. Wow, I guess I can now say you are a liar and sleep ok at night.

 

[Newby]

Sure didn't know that and honestly could care less. I teach agents to write competitive companies. RNA doesn't fit. If any of my agents write it and need higher they know how to reach me. You stuck your foot in your own mouth in this thread. Now you're looking for anything to get the spotlight off of you. No skin off my back, I'll keep doing what I'm doing. It seems to be working.

Where is the foot in my mouth. I try to help a guy have a smooth transition. You guys just keep slinging BS. Masters of comparing commission levels of your top selected agents get to our base street levels. If you guys want to post what your street level commissions are that every agent gets I would be happy to put ours side by side for direct comparison. Might be interesting. I'm sure that guy earlier today that was quoted 100-105% must have been mistaken.

 

[John Galt]

Who do you put people that had a mini stroke last week with? How about obese 80-units of insulin diabetics? How about health 40-year olds that want $50,000 whole-life. What about the insulin diabetics that take a whole shoe box full of medications?

RNA has a lot of niches.

I guess this is what Thad meant by "Distraction" ^^^^^^^ See above.

 

[bboman23]

Who do you put people that had a mini stroke last week with? How about obese 80-units of insulin diabetics? How about health 40-year olds that want $50,000 whole-life. What about the insulin diabetics that take a whole shoe box full of medications?

RNA has a lot of niches.

The 1 time a year an agent runs into the mini stroke, write RNA if you want. Insulin question can go RNA or TA standard. Healthy 40 year old? Fully under written or even Assurity.

All you did was find things RNA likes and posted that. That could be done with any company. You are trying hard to get that spotlight off ya!

So it's official! FEX has a good contract with RNA for their agents! That's awesome! I'll probably be so busy releasing agents over to you tomorrow because of it.

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Where is the foot in my mouth. I try to help a guy have a smooth transition. You guys just keep slinging BS. Masters of comparing commission levels of your top selected agents get to our base street levels. If you guys want to post what your street level commissions are that every agent gets I would be happy to put ours side by side for direct comparison. Might be interesting. I'm sure that guy earlier today that was quoted 100-105% must have been mistaken.

PLEASE post the agents name that I offered 100 to 105 to! PLEASE! I've offered those levels for 20 free leads included. I never offer agents those levels unless it's with free leads which I don't encourage. All my agents get very fair numbers across the board plus a whole lot more. They don't have to wait three weeks to reach me and get something done. I'm very available. I'll be in South Carolina next week if any of my agents are close and want to train (which plenty are already coming). I offer a hell of a lot for my agents. You are just not willing to go do what I do so you knock me. Agents see the value in it but I'd expect the "closest" competition to knock what I do!

 

[John Galt]

You guys are starved for drama... The one thing I am is transparent. I have no reason not to be.

Matt was asked to move his contracts because he offers diminishing returns. I like Matt personally, but many agents find him offensive and off putting. I enjoy his humor and his countless daily post, however many agents got the perception Matt's negative tone was that of FEX.

We would have had a conversation with JG earlier, however his relationship with Donnie (Gooner) gave him more time. Also when they started their tele-lead business. (Monkey Dust Leads) FEX offered complete support.

JG has struggled at FEX. I see the production reports. I attribute that to JG choosing to work a much different business model then most at FEX. Donnie (Gooner) does similar but has experienced a great deal more success than JG at their business plan.

This is a just a nudge for JG to go be successful. You have to do something different or you will continue to get the same results.

As far as I know JG has not purchases DM while with FEX... Now he is going to do 150K next year and take advantage of DM leads. I say way to go! I have been telling you to buy leads and there are a lot of agent that are killing it in Georgia.

Everyone should quit all the worrying about nothing and go write some business and earn yourself a convention trip, and get yourself out of that Motel 6 in Tulsa, OK on a Wednesday night.

Diminishing returns??? OK now I get to call you a liar too Travis, you guys are both full of BS your eyes are brown. I have had my best 6 or 7 weeks the PAST recent 6 or 7 weeks, Im not going anywhere Travis, you are a blatant liar in this post. Boom, its screen shot, for proof later. My numbers are up by over 30%....since I stopped having anything to do with FEX and started hanging around agents that actually can talk to one another (without thier IMO talking crap about other agents within the same IMO). So no Travis you dont get to come on here and claim this AT ALL. A lie is a lie and I have no diminishing returns at all. Ive written more like I said earlier in the past 6 or 7 weeks, no wonder you guys are falling behind, you cant even add or subtract!

Im glad to be gone now that I see both of you are liars, con men really, the kind to say anything for a buck, and yes am I a little bit of a renegade? Hell yea I am and thank God for renegades, without us you wouldnt have a country to call home. But one thing I always have been is honest, you sir are not a gentleman and are hereby dismissed as a man in my eyes, off with you sir, you are a liar.

And let me add Travis, I never had ALL my contracts with you clowns, I had other contracts like 5 star and Foresters and Kemper elsewhere, you never seen those reports, yea thats what I thought, your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash, have fun with that. Nice attempt at damage control, talk about diminishing returns, maybe you should get a smarter business partner.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

riginally Posted by Newby View Post So there was a place that was 5-points up on one and 15-points down on the other? And when they found out their agents were complaining that street was now 15 points higher what happened? Someone complained to RNA. Right? That's your example of an FMO that treats every street level agent better? I've tried to be nice with you JG through this whole process. We've been fair to you coming in and fair going out. You can spin BS four different ways. Doesn't make it true. I had to copy and past this above ^^^^ because maybe you deleted it not sure. Scott, you know that is not what I am talking about, lol. Not spinning BS, you and now that I think of it Travis both know what Im referring to...Travis handled the negotiation. Wow, I guess I can now say you are a liar and sleep ok at night.

Donnie asked for a commission bump AND based on his Year to date production, we thought he merited a bump... JG you had barely produced anything for FEX at all (Be Honest!? I can pull the reports) but because Donnie was your friend we gave you the bump as well... In craps that's called "betting on the come out"...

Onwards and upwards For everyone... Good luck! I still am counting on your input and help with buying my AR15.

 

[Newby]

The 1 time a year an agent runs into the mini stroke, write RNA if you want. Insulin question can go RNA or TA standard. Healthy 40 year old? Fully under written or even Assurity. All you did was find things RNA likes and posted that. That could be done with any company. You are trying hard to get that spotlight off ya! So it's official! FEX has a good contract with RNA for their agents! That's awesome! I'll probably be so busy releasing agents over to you tomorrow because of it.

I thought you liked to be competitive? Those are just examples where RNA is needed to be competitive. Certainly you teach this to your agents?

You guys are the ones twisting to the commission talk. That wasn't me. The spotlight is fine from my side.

 

[Gooner]

You guys are starved for drama... The one thing I am is transparent. I have no reason not to be.

Matt was asked to move his contracts because he offers diminishing returns. I like Matt personally, but many agents find him offensive and off putting. I enjoy his humor and his countless daily post, however many agents got the perception Matt's negative tone was that of FEX.
We would have had a conversation with JG earlier, however his relationship with Donnie (Gooner) gave him more time. Also when they started their tele-lead business. (Monkey Dust Leads) FEX offered complete support.


JG has struggled at FEX. I see the production reports. I attribute that to JG choosing to work a much different business model then most at FEX. Donnie (Gooner) does similar but has experienced a great deal more success than JG at their business plan.

This is a just a nudge for JG to go be successful. You have to do something different or you will continue to get the same results.

As far as I know JG has not purchases DM while with FEX... Now he is going to do 150K next year and take advantage of DM leads. I say way to go! I have been telling you to buy leads and there are a lot of agent that are killing it in Georgia.

Everyone should quit all the worrying about nothing and go write some business and earn yourself a convention trip, and get yourself out of that Motel 6 in Tulsa, OK on a Wednesday night.

So here it goes...Scorched Earth Time Full reveal of the Donnie/Gooner thoughts...since I've been talked about..even if it was "hidden" or "not mentioned by name"

Yeah, I was approached by a couple of IMO's because of my production and offered FEX to match it...sure fellas..match my production...then get my commission level

Matt is, and after all of this BS dies down...I HOPE....will continue to be my friend, but I did bring him to the party on the Aetna and Oxford bump...Sure 360 wants to offer him more..he's a mouthpiece, probably the reason 360 offered me 3 months of 'at cost' DM leads...to try and lure me away.

Yep...I even talked to Thad about moving a contract under him at one point...the stipulation...I WILL NOT BE UNDER 360 IN ANY WAY, SHAPE FORM OR FASHION! I got the emails and texts to confirm..WHY, OH GOONER, WHY the disdain for 360...honestly..no reason other than it would be used to hurt FEX...Very similar to the way the John Galt and FEX dissolution has gone public.

JG was never and I repeat in danger of being termed without a contract being transferred..confirmed by him and FEX. I was never worried about Matt having any interruption in his contracts... I told the FEX guys that if he had a problem moving.."WE HAD A PROBLEM"...AND THERE WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM.

***FWIW***I just saw a ton of updates to this thread as I'm posting***

this is gonna be a fun night on the forum...a bunch of grown men having a pissing contest! YAY..Insurance Forum!!

 

[bboman23]

Buddy I've never been anything but straight with you. You were just trying to play both sides of the fence and that won't cut it. All friendly with us then talking behind our back. I can't handle two faced people. And it wasn't my call. I didn't remove you. Your smack talk struck a nerve with everyone. Sorry. I don't see FEX inviting me into their group chat.

Wanted to straighten this up. By two faced I was meaning the dinger. I know you JD Travis (not sure who else) are in a group text. (Even though JD said that's not true) and you were also in ours. Just doesn't work out well for us having you in there. The talking behind the back was about the production comments but that got cleared up. So simply put, as far as I know you're not two faced. Just with FEX so it would get confusing for my newer agents in the ding. You have my number and email if you ever need to talk to me other than on here.