Telesales - Brutal Truth

[Thedude]

Where are they being crapped on? Rightfully or otherwise?

I have a local competing agent that can't beat KSKJ and can't get contracted with them, {can't beat 'em, can't join 'em}, so he comes up with stuff like you read here too.

So what?

The agent report stuff is nonsense. A policy cannot be contested over something that's not part of the contract. You would think licensed agents would be the first to understand that.

Then the hall monitor wants to bring up some jackleg stuff about some *** supposedly saying that Columbian's GI could be contested over the agent report. I don't even know what he's talking about but that couldn't happen either.

If someone doesn't want to write KSKJ then they shouldn't write them. It's that simple.

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KSKJ is certainly an insurance company. As is RNA and Foresters and Royal Arcanum, {ran into my first one of those in the field today}.

If they are not insurance companies then what are they? They all claim to be insurance companies.

relax JD every time someone mentions KSKJ doesn't have to be a summoning call for you. I find it funny a bunch of super hot head FE guys are going around mixing the two things I believe should be kept separate (business and religion). You are their #1 agent....even if you don't have to be religious to sell it don't you find that in the least bit FUNNY? Well it is. Resident forum *** caller is the #1 agent for the certificate provider of Christ.

then Newby posts how "it is a plus in the midwest" to be religious and it makes me laugh even harder because that confirms people are using religion to sell (whether consciously or not) and I laugh even more.

Then I laugh even more at how you can't let a KSKJ post go by without a response.


"excuse me mam this card was filled out........"

 

[magicofreality]

Um bro...you bought a ton of leads off me when you first started. PLUS....YOU are the one that said you tried a little telesales. LOL? Like a month ago.

But I also know what someone is talking out of their ass about something they don't know anything about yet try to come off as fact.

Now...we are a small office but my WORST agent last month did right around $10,500. My top TWO did just under $16K.

Just because they don't come on here to be ass raped by JD and his minions doesn't mean they don't exist.

Most of my recruits find me from mailers, social media and YT.

Most of the agents who find me on here are wanting part time...not work at it of a high contract and free leads. All of which are complete wastes of time.

Equita does over $200K a month with their system. Do you think it doesn't work for them because none of their agents come on here???

Listen...I could give a rats ass what you all say on here other than the fact that when you try to give advice that is wrong to someone looking for real answers...I'm going to call you out.

I generate brand new leads everyday for our agents. They get unlimited Tele leads AND NEW TV leads. NO ONE can get TV leads lower then my cost.

My agents take calls all day. But see...none of you have "seen" our operation so you just assume it's a "call center" sitting in cubicles all day like some operator. When that couldn't be further from the truth.LOL

It's rare that an agent comes in for an interview and doesn't see and listen to an actual sale being made right in front of them. RARE.

Plus...if this didn't work....if telesales was soooooooo bad....how am I contracted for the next 5 years by a very large group out of GA to open their telesales division up from the ground up? It's already off the ground and even THEY didn't realize how technical and advanced this operation is.

It's not "buying leads" and driving around like a soap salesman "knocking doors" all day.

I've said it a million times. My office is easy to find. Doors always open. Anyone who wants to see greatness at work is welcome to stop buy.

But to "try" something out and fail at it....then come on hear and preach the Gospel....is ignorant and unprofessional.

It's how you lose credibility. You don't want to lose that and followers on YT now do ya Doug??

Learn before you speak.

Interesting. How many carriers are your agents contracted with?

 

[mudhound]

what a scam! If you sit on the phone all day and hear no...........

 

[jdeasy]

relax JD every time someone mentions KSKJ doesn't have to be a summoning call for you. I find it funny a bunch of super hot head FE guys are going around mixing the two things I believe should be kept separate (business and religion). You are their #1 agent....even if you don't have to be religious to sell it don't you find that in the least bit FUNNY? Well it is. Resident forum *** caller is the #1 agent for the certificate provider of Christ.

then Newby posts how "it is a plus in the midwest" to be religious and it makes me laugh even harder because that confirms people are using religion to sell (whether consciously or not) and I laugh even more.

Then I laugh even more at how you can't let a KSKJ post go by without a response.


"excuse me mam this card was filled out........"

Nothing for me to relax about. You seem to think you bother me with what you think are attacks on KSKJ. I don't care if you, or anyone, likes or dislikes KSKJ.

What I find comical is people getting all worked up over what is posted about a company on a message board.

I've news for you. Unless you work in one of these call centers you are not forced to write any company.

What's even more funny is that one of these call center dudes has told his employees that he will terminate them if he finds out they are posting here.

 

[Agentguy5]

What's even more funny is that one of these call center dudes has told his employees that he will terminate them if he finds out they are posting here.

Gee, I wonder who that would be... hmm....

 

[SammyJ]

With these clowns like Daviso you're not an independent agent as your under their thumb. I have a few imo's and never even talk to them and thats how i like it. I write who i want when i want. The people in call centers are captive slaves.North stars top agent showed her 2016 1099 at $104k on a video. Don't get me wrong with free leads and no expenses thats good money but thats 1 out of a 100 in telesales to net that.

 

[TxJohnny]

North stars top agent showed her 2016 1099 at $104k on a video. Don't get me wrong with free leads and no expenses thats good money but thats 1 out of a 100 in telesales to net that.

That was the #1 agent? How did this number lead Am Am? That doesn't sound right.

 

[NSRH]

Nothing for me to relax about. You seem to think you bother me with what you think are attacks on KSKJ. I don't care if you, or anyone, likes or dislikes KSKJ.

What I find comical is people getting all worked up over what is posted about a company on a message board.

I've news for you. Unless you work in one of these call centers you are not forced to write any company.

What's even more funny is that one of these call center dudes has told his employees that he will terminate them if he finds out they are posting here.

John, you ignoring my request to clear the record speaks volumes.

To be clear, I have never, EVER tried to contract with KSKJ, nor have I ever been turned down by them. I have no use for them.

Whatever you were trying to insinuate was borderline libel.

You completely fabricated a story to try and diminish my credibility in the industry. Very low.

Your reputation follows you.

 

[goillini52]

That was the #1 agent? How did this number lead Am Am? That doesn't sound right.

That's the top agent for North Star, not necessarily the top agent for the Anti-U.S. Military company.

 

[NSRH]

With these clowns like Daviso you're not an independent agent as your under their thumb. I have a few imo's and never even talk to them and thats how i like it. I write who i want when i want. The people in call centers are captive slaves.North stars top agent showed her 2016 1099 at $104k on a video. Don't get me wrong with free leads and no expenses thats good money but thats 1 out of a 100 in telesales to net that.

Well that was one of three 1099's, and AmAm only 1099's for earned commissions. So you can imagine how much more money this agent made when you include advances. And thats netting 100k BTW.

And our ratio is much higher than one out of a hundred of agents netting 100k+ in income. But you'd never believe that anyway.

Our ratio of retention, and agents making above average money is much higher than any indy format. I'd be suprised if 1 out of 100 indy agents made 100k+.

But again, telesales if a preference, if you feel like being on the phone all day is slave work, stay away!

To me, driving all over the country side and getting no showed is worse than slave work

I did it for years.

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That was the #1 agent? How did this number lead Am Am? That doesn't sound right.

What doesnt sound right about that?