If I miss anyone I am sorry, there has been too many posts to keep up with. As far as the guy only writing 2k that week, I just want to clear up he was not there to ride with me. He came to where we were to WORK. So he was not in the car riding with me training everyday. I did help him on a few points that will make him money for years to come.
As far as the SNL production website, if I recall I did not see JD or Travis or Newby on that page either. Man those guys must suck and not sell any FE since they are not on that ONE companies website (hope you see the joke in that and not attack me for saying you three suck)
As far as the leads and talking about SUCKY (or was it crappy) tele leads...John and Gooner don't you sell leads that are either 22 or 25 per lead for a press one and you pay if the lead is 30 years old or 75? An agent that buys those leads has to be able to sell term because it costs too much and data is too limited to make the data more generic. And if they order 25 leads they actually have to give you 5 counties in order to get their order filled? You talk about an agent driving all over God's country? 5 counties for press ones that are EXTREMELY overpriced seems odd to me. If you want to say this is not true, I can post the entire sales pitch for you to hear.
AARP comment...I really had no idea who posted it, but I remembered it. I was just saying what is the point in posting it if you are not going to share it? You just did that to RECRUIT agents or make FEX look so good. It is the same thing you two do with your leads. I remember a post that said something like. "Hey gooner (or John...cant remember who posted it) can you believe how many leads we produced today. That was crazy" Or something like that. That couldn't have been sent in a text message? NO you were wanting to promote your leads without promoting. Just like the thread John Galt and Gooner knows leads. All I am saying is, if you are selling leads, JUST COME OUT AND POST IT! I can't stand little childish ways of beating around the bush.
As far as me recruiting, every post I make to someone about contracts is as follows:
360
FEX
Todd King
Then the next thing I ask is what state are they in? If they are in Indianna just say, FEX is HANDS DOWN the best IMO I know of for them to go with PERIOD! But lets say they are in Mississippi....Well I am sure I can give them more help and guidance since they are a lot closer to me. Also when people read those posts and call 360, that does not make them go under me. I have had agents call Brad and REQUEST to be with me, and that is the ones I get. The others come from outside sources. Keep in mind I live 5 minutes for ONE LIFE and I also have ties to UNION NATIONAL (Debit company) that I get a lot of agents from. I do not post on this forum to recruit. I see posts all the time where someone asks a question about something. The responses are...If your upline can't answer this maybe you need a new upline. But guess what, when I answer them I just ANSWER THEM!!! That is if I know the answer.
Back to my production...Gooner you strike me as a guy that will really make it far in FE or whatever you pick to do. I have been at this for 7 years now and I have never had an agent under me until Jan 01 2014. So I will say this I am debt free and don't have any bills...I didn't do this in the last 6 months. That was done from my production the last 6 years as a personal producer. Guess what....I have never ever ever seen JD's production, but guess what...I believe he writes business. It is kind of like LH since all I did was give a little advice on one thing I thought would help FEX and then production gets brought up??? I am not bashing FEX! I have no problem with an IMO that gives high contracts and training and a lot more, I AM GRATEFUL! I was just giving a tip and since I have done that, my phone has been blowing up with people telling me they are glad I said it. It was getting old seeing these roundabout posts that really made no sense except to shine light on FEX and get people to call and join up.
Newby I do apologize because you really do help a lot on here, actually more than I think I will ever be able to help. This hasn't been going on for a while but it was just here recently that you could tell it was more of a my **** is bigger than your **** and it got old. I just wanted to bring up the fact that there is probably 50x more people that read this forum than there are that posts here. I just like when an agent asks a question and gets an answer instead of your IMO sucks and you should call me.
John, you told me to not be jealous, I really hate to say this because I in no way try to boast or brag and I am here only to try to help people and it gives me something to do if I get stood up and I am bored in the car...but here it goes. You say I am jealous of FEX...then why have I not released ONE SINGLE AGENT to FEX but have received agents FROM FEX? Please don't ever think I am jealous.
And for the record...I have talked to Travis before and think he is a really great guy (from what I can tell). Newby is a great guy and that goes without saying. I like John Galt and Gooner a LOT! And I have no problem with JD, I just try to ruffle his feathers from time to time because he gets so stern
Ben, they dont write SNL so they would not be on that board. It was being used as an example of you saying SNL was one of your top 3 companies per a conversation you had with Gooner, he will back this up.
Now, onto the leads, post whatever you want about our leads, we have never ever said anything other than what you just said. Other than being overpriced, they are not, considering we got Scott 20 leads in 2 days and another agent 61 leads in 3 days I think you need to re examine your post. And not just that....but tele lead companies usually have data requirements, but you would not know this cause you just subbed your sh*t out of the country. From what ive heard from agents that have used your leads, they may be cheaper but they suck. We are a wide open book on how much our leads cost, what to expect and what to not expect. And to add to this Gooner wrote $13,000 off of 6 appts with "OUR" leads, JD could have written 3 extra policies in KY but he does not write GI. Who cares the cost of the lead....its the ROI!!!! And $22 per lead is not over priced for a good quality lead, Mark Forte (Your Buddy) charges $25 for his telemarketed lead and Ill put ours up against his any day. And Im not arguing about the term comment, sell what you want to, if you are too stupid not to have a carrier that sells whole life from 0-85 that is your fault not ours. Gooner wrote a $750,000 Transamerica Term policy last week off our leads and I have done the same thing to a lesser amount, there are plenty of carriers and I personally feel you need to have more than just FE WL in your bag. Disclaimer: Gooner is in my ear on the phone as I type this and he approves of this message.
So whats it gonna be Ben, me and Gooner busted our ass, spent a ton of money on being able to put together a lead program in house, what did you do...Hire an Asian or Indian call center to generate those leads, man, I bet they are top quality
