Asurea

There is probably more then one Asurea offices across California. I'm describing my current experience with their hiring process. I am not new agent. I am licensed and experienced. But they put me on the two year old "dead" leads for three weeks, and I had to call all the same leads for three weeks coming to the office mornings and nights, and then Saturdays. Out of 10 appointments that I've made managers couldn't make any sales ( as they said), and I didn't get hired neither paid for my time and efforts.
I'm just wondering if this is the same in all Asurea offices, and would like to hear from anyone who actually got through those "B" leads and got hired?
I'm sorry I waisted my time, but I really wanted to become an Assurea's employee and I tried very hard, but nobody helped me get through. Nobody offered me to buy fresh leads.
 
Yeah, I'm with Sac916 on this one... and I find it funny that vip146 registered for this site in August 2009 but just made a first post yesterday, to trash his/her experience with Asurea.

I'm a new W2'd Asurea agent in Florida (new to the industry as a whole, coming from real estate and more recently in health/wellness business development), and I did go through the same process but with a MUCH different experience and point of view:

Sure, I went to the office to interview a few times (welcome to the world of 'interviewing for a job'). Yes, you must write four policy apps totalling around $4k of premium to get hired, and those will count towards your production upon hiring. Yep, you do get a handful of 'B' leads to work, and many of them have been called multiple times... This is the 'paying dues' portion of getting the job, and it's true not all can hack it. But if you can sell without fresh new leads, you prove yourself worthy (and yes, I've seen a handful of others try and fail, or just quit when they didn't like it, already since I started).

My office must be different from the Orange County (CA) one as it pertained to the calling experience, as we really don't have to spend much time in the office during the pre-employment production phase. It was more of a 'go out and sell, let's see what you've got' approach from the manager. I did take part in evening call clinics on two occasions, but that was to be expected since I had to set appointments. I actually chose to spend more time in office since I'm new to the industry, but the W2 agents have to be there a couple days per week for housekeeping and do their own thing the other 3-4 days they work. I was required to do a small conference call each morning while working towards my first four sales... and got those sales within 8 days of starting my pre-production period.

Shortly after, I completed my hiring paperwork and was hired mid-March, finished with decent production that month and just plain killed it in April for my first full month as a W2 agent. It's a good company, not for everyone and certainly not for someone who just wants a top contract without support... but for a career-changer, or new agent, or someone who enjoys the structure of a 'job' but with the freedom of being an indy agent, it's a good option. So far it's treating me very well!

As for the other negative stuff in the prior post above... I don't even know where to start regarding the 'managers stole my leads, it'll take months to get hired, etc etc.' portion of that poster's review... suffice it to say, everyone has their own unique viewpoint, but I doubt something this blatant would happen based on my experience. I'm looking forward to flying out to Sacramento and meeting the top brass very soon!
 
Norton said:
Yeah, I'm with Sac916 on this one... and I find it funny that vip146 registered for this site in August 2009 but just made a first post yesterday, to trash his/her experience with Asurea.

I'm a new W2'd Asurea agent in Florida (new to the industry as a whole, coming from real estate and more recently in health/wellness business development), and I did go through the same process but with a MUCH different experience and point of view:

Sure, I went to the office to interview a few times (welcome to the world of 'interviewing for a job'). Yes, you must write four policy apps totalling around $4k of premium to get hired, and those will count towards your production upon hiring. Yep, you do get a handful of 'B' leads to work, and many of them have been called multiple times... This is the 'paying dues' portion of getting the job, and it's true not all can hack it. But if you can sell without fresh new leads, you prove yourself worthy (and yes, I've seen a handful of others try and fail, or just quit when they didn't like it, already since I started).

My office must be different from the Orange County (CA) one as it pertained to the calling experience, as we really don't have to spend much time in the office during the pre-employment production phase. It was more of a 'go out and sell, let's see what you've got' approach from the manager. I did take part in evening call clinics on two occasions, but that was to be expected since I had to set appointments. I actually chose to spend more time in office since I'm new to the industry, but the W2 agents have to be there a couple days per week for housekeeping and do their own thing the other 3-4 days they work. I was required to do a small conference call each morning while working towards my first four sales... and got those sales within 8 days of starting my pre-production period.

Shortly after, I completed my hiring paperwork and was hired mid-March, finished with decent production that month and just plain killed it in April for my first full month as a W2 agent. It's a good company, not for everyone and certainly not for someone who just wants a top contract without support... but for a career-changer, or new agent, or someone who enjoys the structure of a 'job' but with the freedom of being an indy agent, it's a good option. So far it's treating me very well!

As for the other negative stuff in the prior post above... I don't even know where to start regarding the 'managers stole my leads, it'll take months to get hired, etc etc.' portion of that poster's review... suffice it to say, everyone has their own unique viewpoint, but I doubt something this blatant would happen based on my experience. I'm looking forward to flying out to Sacramento and meeting the top brass very soon!
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Vat is dis? W2?

Are you assigning your commissions over to Asurea?
 
I have signed the contracts and been through the interviews. I asked about assignment of commissions. I was told no that they were mine. On the appointment papers I checked all boxes having commissions come straight to me. I was also told I was 100 percent vested from day one
 
TPAAgent said:
Vat is dis? W2?

Are you assigning your commissions over to Asurea?
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Asurea does it two different ways: some agents are on their own and 1099'd, while others, like me, are hired and W-2'd with salary. Yes, I'm paid my salary and a small gas allowance twice monthly, and my commissions come from Asurea Group corporate, and they take taxes out like any other paycheck. The commission split is based on production -- the more you earn, the higher your percentage... and this is in addition to a small salary.
As a rookie in the industry, I decided to take the salary, benefits, and a lower commission split for the in-person guidance and admin support. I split the cost of leads with my manager and run appointments on my own, calling/setting them as I see fit.
If I continue doing well, I may consider going 1099 and keeping larger commissions... but while I'm still learning, it's nice to have a local office, a certain paycheck, no need for E&O, and all the other support I may need.
 
The office I'm in is 1099 plus salary. That is how my manager explained it to me. After a 90 day trial period then I am offered the salary.
 
rousemark said:
If you are selling insurance products, it does not matter if you are 1099 or W2, you need E&O. If something goes wrong, the lawyers go after everybody.. especially the agent.
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Yes, but when you are on the group side, Asurea is responsible for any issue since you are their employee. On the wholesale side, that is not the case. You are truly independent.
 
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